I want to make sure the reason I'm leaving aligns with the companies I'm looking at or is this situation just me?

IBM / Eng LeavingIBM
Jul 12 18 Comments

Basically I want to leave IBM because I feel like I'm not learning anymore and I'm being held back by the politics.

I think my goals and purpose for possibly leaving is reasonable, I want to find a company where I can grow alot, learn, and be independent to a degree ( Id still appreciate mentorship as I'm in really only in the cusp of my software development careers.

My current situation feels like I'm being babied, I'd like to be able to solve my own problems and design and implement with my own technical abilities instead of relying on others. So for all you IBMers I want to know if architecture and designing is strictly a political thing, ie it's something reserved for higher bands and DEs (distinguished engineers for u non big blue Bois) ? Or am I just in the wrong team, without giving too much away my lead is somewhat new to being a lead, and he solves alot of the issues for us or the DEs (over architect) some feature and were left to implement. How does one learn like this? Is this just a me situation? Is this an IBM only thing or could I face this at a company like amazon.

I want independence and some responsibility / ownership? Is that something that amazon / large companies that aren't IBM can give?

I've been mainly looking at startups because this seems to occur more in those environments ( could be a grass is greener effect though).

But larger companies tend to have better mentorship (?)

And because people will ask

TC 92k but its NC so I live like a poor king.

1 YOE

tl:;Dr

I want independence, responsibility, ownership and some mentorship.

Not to be coddled.

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TOP 18 Comments
  • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
    I want this, I want that blah blah.., baby talk.

    Think of what the company and its customers want, and how can you be helpful, son, then the rest will follow
    Jul 12 8
    • Intel / Eng NerdyTurd
      You just said it yourself "you will learn, I won't" think about that for a second and tell me where the real reward is.
      Jul 12
    • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
      Learning is not a reward to me or even society. Learning is time investment, it only gets returned when you apply what you have learned. Learning itself cannot be s goal, it’s like making money s goal. It’s what you do with it matters. That’s why you will not be rewarded as much as someone who puts others first.
      Jul 12
    • Bloomberg / Eng
      leapfrog

      Bloomberg Eng

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      CA Technologies, Bloomberg LP
      leapfrogmore
      You work for a financial company who's goal is purely just making it's executives richer, at times at the expense of it's same clients you're speaking of. If you care so much about putting other's first, think you would go into human services.
      Jul 12
    • E*Trade / Finance cbEV72
      Forgive me but I’m not cynical about the value of product and services we bring to our customers. Btw, your firm’s products take almost sentimental place in my ❤️. I wouldn’t hope you’d understand
      Jul 12
    • Intel / Eng NerdyTurd
      You learn and you apply, learning is the pillar upon which you build things, I'm a very practical engineer, but don't get me wrong, theory comes before practice. The reward you desire is in the form of money, and money will never fulfill you, I desire knowledge which has a better fulfillment to me. Money in our field follow the most knowledgable people, if I take your approach, I will be unemployable within 2 years
      Jul 12
  • Oracle not_larry
    This is a 1 YOE thing. Could happen anywhere but in general lot more will be expected of you at Amazon.
    Jul 12 1
    • IBM / Eng LeavingIBM
      OP
      I am okay with that, I think this is the right choice then
      Jul 12
  • Fidelis Cybersecurity / Eng
    pzhang15

    Fidelis Cybersecurity Eng

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    pzhang15more
    smaller companies dont have these problems, but you have to be more qualified
    Jul 12 3
    • IBM / Eng LeavingIBM
      OP
      I think I'm qualified or at least willing to learn what I need, but I don't feel like I'm getting that here. So do larger companies like FAANG++ also have these problems?
      Jul 12
    • Fidelis Cybersecurity / Eng
      pzhang15

      Fidelis Cybersecurity Eng

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      EchoStar
      pzhang15more
      How big is your team? My team only has 6 prople, each person has great flexibility and independence
      Jul 12
    • IBM / Eng LeavingIBM
      OP
      Smaller than yours I like the people I work with and the work / domain, but yeah it's the culture.
      Jul 12
  • Atlassian / Eng
    Luffy, M.D

    Atlassian Eng

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    Luffy, M.Dmore
    A lot of it is 1 YOE

    That said, not having been at IBM, it could be the company at well. When I was at one past employer, I was a Senior SWE and I had 15+ YOE but their structures pretty much treat everyone but leads like you describe
    Jul 12 0
  • Expedia / Eng vacations
    IBM has some niche stuff they are working on which I'm sure would give you more freedom to ideate/create. Hyperledger for example is still experimental imo.
    Jul 12 0
  • Booking.com / Eng b.blindr
    Go startup then come back to big tech
    Jul 13 0