IBM Offer Negotiation Tips

Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
Nov 19, 2018 35 Comments

I’m expecting to receive an offer from IBM today. The recruiter has told me the offer needs one more approval before she can discuss it with me.

When I told them my target salary, they didn’t seem put off by it at all, so I think I should have asked for more. 😔. I was also reviewing their medical benefits, and they are pretty TERRIBLE.

Any-who, does anyone know with IBM offers, how much room there is to negotiate without the offer having to go back for another approval?

I have another offer on the table and don’t want to delay this one any further due to Thanksgiving being this week.

5 YOE, remote role

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  • New / Eng ufJz68
    Can I have what are you smoking to go from Google to IBM? Got to be food stuff if it messed you up like that.
    Nov 19, 2018 6
    • New / Eng ufJz68
      How much is very high? What skills?
      Nov 19, 2018
    • IBM
      lonely gir

      IBM

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      Blue Origin
      lonely girmore
      >500k
      Nov 19, 2018
    • IBM
      lonely gir

      IBM

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      Blue Origin
      lonely girmore
      For phd' s in certain specialities
      Nov 19, 2018
    • New / Eng ufJz68
      Makes sense. At least until IBM decides you are not longer important
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Qualcomm NqAf57
      Then they'll give you just 2 weeks severance. 🙄😕😋
      Nov 19, 2018
  • VMware / Eng vm12
    are you moving from google to IBM?
    Nov 19, 2018 0
  • IBM ytmD74
    I work remote too. It’s the best. I’m in the blockchain practice. Which are you joining?
    Nov 22, 2018 7
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      I heard they are taking away PPOs
      Nov 23, 2018
    • IBM wliG72
      They took out of network medical away from the PPOs. Mental health OON is still covered. I would not join IBM today unless the role and comp were special. Don’t count on the stock doing anything.
      Nov 26, 2018
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      Do you know If they released the 2019 benefits summary? HR keeps referring me to the 2018 benefits even though I wouldn’t be able to start until the new year.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • IBM / Mktg pxDx83
      They have released it. You absolutely should not rely on the 2018 summary since 2019 is MUCH worse.
      Nov 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      Can you share it with me, if you don’t mind?
      Nov 27, 2018
  • Boeing / Ops Airbus
    are you moving from google to IBM?
    Nov 19, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
    OP
    I accepted the offer. Anyone know how long the background check process usually takes?
    Nov 29, 2018 3
    • IBM / Mktg pxDx83
      Wow. Good luck, I guess.
      Nov 29, 2018
    • IBM muAG37
      A few days. Note if you put any education or other credentials in your application they will come asking for them. There is a centralized team that follows up on info put in the application, so even if your manager never asks you will get an email out of the blue from some rando asking for evidence a few weeks after starting.
      Nov 30, 2018
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      Thanks.
      Nov 30, 2018
  • IBM / Mktg pxDx83
    They’re taking away out of network coverage in the PPO. Which yes, really makes it no longer a PPO.
    Nov 23, 2018 2
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      I wonder if that will make premiums and out of pocket maximums go down 🤞🏾🤞🏾
      Nov 24, 2018
    • IBM wliG72
      No fucking way. IBM is a finance-driven company. Employees are resources, and IBM cheaps out now - not like it used to be when employees mattered. Engagement/morale in many parts of IBM sucks. Maybe if we get a new CEO, things may improve.
      Nov 26, 2018
  • Wells Fargo @2019
    Heck No, don’t move from Google to IBM. You will end up in between all indian politics which you cannot get over. Have peaceful life by not joining IBM, Infosys, TCS and CTS.
    Btw, I was with one of these during just early days.
    Nov 19, 2018 0
  • IBM
    lonely gir

    IBM

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    lonely girmore
    Whatever band the offer you say band 8 always push to go one band higher so 9. Even if it doesn't increase your base you will be happy later on because you'll get a larger raise each year if you come in at bottom Of your band rather than top.
    Nov 19, 2018 3
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      Does pushing for a higher band require the recruiter to send the offer back for another approval? Or is it within the recruiter’s discretion to go to a higher band?
      Nov 19, 2018
    • IBM
      lonely gir

      IBM

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      Blue Origin
      lonely girmore
      I really don't know how much authority recruiters have. Just push for it, it will help you long term.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
      OP
      Got the offer details (verbally). Looks like it may be band 8.
      Nov 20, 2018
  • IBM will low ball you, you'll take it cause your ignorant friends go "WOW - IBM!", you won't see a raise in 10 years, you'll have your job threatened monthly, you'll be downgraded to a band 6 after several low PBCs, your people manager will just follow around some incompetent VP with a clipboard, then he'll call you one day to let you know you've been RAd. Yes, the medical sux too, and you'll need the mental health part of it often. IBM has no products anymore, and definitely none that work. But boy they sure are fun to throw out of your office when it's raining!

    YOu seriously leaving Google for this?
    Dec 9, 2018 1
    • you are unfortunately wrong, I can speak from experience. If you get 'downgraded' it is due to your lack of common sense
      Oct 21
  • IBM / Finance tricia
    Why move from Google to IBM!!!
    Dec 7, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng Slw07gnvs
    OP
    I gave the recruiter my counter, which was just a larger signing bonus. Recruiter’s gonna talk to the hiring manager and let me know what’s up.
    Nov 21, 2018 0
  • IBM nfLH82
    Talk to your hiring manager
    Nov 21, 2018 0
  • IBM / Data bbWI22
    If you can get a hold of the hiring manager directly you might have some flexibility to negotiate compensation.
    Nov 19, 2018 0

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