From outside the company, all of MSFT’s L65-67 jobs are titled principal. Is there a way to specifically target L66 PM jobs?
You can post the req here and ask? But the jobs will be few and far between and many will have already been filled and are only advertised for compliance reasons.
Is there a reason you’re wanting to narrow the focus of principal roles to 66? Managers can always hire one level above or below the posted level so as long as it’s a role you think you fit well that part won’t be an issue. Internally you can see it. If you’re working with a recruiter that may tell you, but I don’t think you can externally filter on the specific level externally.
That’s a good point, the one level above or one level below rule.
Also speaking for my own team, typically we aren't that specific when thinking about the role...it's more senior or principal and then we figure out what level the person would be at offer time. Even in the internal tools I notice that folks will list jobs with incorrect level bands (e.g. principal title but with a senior level band...not sure if they still do this, my assumption was that it's to catch a broader group of searches).
Look at the job ID and ask a Msft friend to look it up on the internal site, ids are the same
Principal, group manager and Director. That's pretty much the 66 titles. Principal normally IC other two are people managers
I’m not an expert, but beyond Principal, as a PM, seems like more of a management role, so it seems like it’d be an assistant GPM or GPM role etc.
Yeah, but even the Principal PM Lead roles can be 65 or 66. GPMs are usually managers of leads. I think that would be a tougher leap for me.
Principal PM lead or manager = 65/66. Principal Group PM manager = 67 I would say don't worry about it that much. Pick any PM lead or manager roles, kill the interviewers and then negotiate. If you are good performer getting promoted from 65 to 67 is not that difficult at Microsoft.