Misc.Nov 28, 2018
MicrosoftSam-I-Am

If true then how is Bing any different from Google, in Principle?

According to Microsoft's most recent "Content Removal Requests Report," China's requests to remove/filter out content from Bing results (and OneDrive content takedowns) made up 85% of all total take-downs in just a six-month period. Out of the 586 successful government content-removal requests through June of this year, China accounts for a whopping 502 of them. The remaining 84 are split up among 10 other countries on this report. Serious question.... apart from the fact that Microsoft never marketed itself as the "Don't Be Evil" company, is the company *truly* distinguishing itself from Google's censored-search practices in China in any way that matters? And if so, are we truly different in kind, or just in degree? And yeah, I'm making this open for discussion under Topics, because we've trashed on Google for (theoretically) this same thing, and it's better that we understand the complete picture before we operate under false illusions on what's actually happening in the industry. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-/crrr/

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Microsoft kejriwal Nov 28, 2018

Because nobody uses bing, so it doesn't matter what content is there or filtered. And it anyways doesn't have a lot of useful search results where they are not filtering anything.

Microsoft Sam-I-Am OP Nov 28, 2018

It's actually not a bad little search engine. Rarely do I have trouble finding what I'm looking for on it--only occasionally do I need to revert to Google... when I'm looking for some function specific to Maps, for instance. That said, for all its humble beginnings I see it's matured just enough to have some utility, which can only grow over time. So it's not so much wasted effort to ask--in what way, if any, is Microsoft's conduct going to differ from Google with respect to Chinese government content filtering and removal demands?

Microsoft Sam-I-Am OP Nov 28, 2018

Something else worth thinking about---since Microsoft's business model does not depend on advertising revenue through user tracking (and the fact that this is almost entirely Google's business model now), Microsoft stands to become a potent competitor, because it's poised to weather pesky things like GDPR and other pending Californian/Federal privacy regulation quite well. People are going to want an alternative, and Bing is the closest thing I can think of right now that could do it.

McAfee JohnMcPee Nov 28, 2018

Bing = amazing for searching porn Google = amazing for everything else

T-Mobile Naively2 Nov 28, 2018

I love the Bing rewards. Gets me a free Dominos pizza every month

AT&T DDM2K Nov 28, 2018

Search results formatted differently than Google (as expected - they are from a different company) and the sheer unfamiliarity of it all makes me go back to Google. “I don’t like the way it looks”

Microsoft Erhlach Dec 6, 2018

OneDrive is off in China

Microsoft Shahman Dec 6, 2018

"This year we put a '12' on the Box."