I'm a republican Trump supporter - where can I work peacefully?

Amazon PsPH25
Nov 24, 2017 272 Comments

I am perfectly tolerant of other people at work, no matter their circumstances, political leanings etc. but I know that I'd be a dead-man-walking if my own leanings were to become public. I'm looking for recommendations for companies where there is either more tolerance for the full political spectrum, or politics is kept fully out of work. In my current company it's not uncommon for people to openly identify as on the left, but the other way is never attempted as it's clearly not tolerated. I honestly feel the Republicans in tech are experiencing the same marginalization/ostracism similar to what gays had to endure in the past - in the sense that one could lose their livelihood based on membership in the marginalized group. Are there companies out there that recognize this lack of diversity on the political spectrum? I don't wish this thread to devolve into a political battle regarding which political position is defensible or acceptable. If you can't accept what ~50% of this country prefers, you are out of touch and I have no insights to gain from you.

Edit: removed language that in hindsight was too exaggerated of the consequences of outing yourself as a Trump supporter based on feedback in the thread.

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  • Yahoo hcowski32
    You do realize Trump lost the popular vote right?
    Nov 24, 2017 32
    • Illumina / Other
      Dead beef

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      @BAP the point was that if for some reason the states got testy with each other in the "remove California scenario", and if Cali got cut off from its water bailout, it would have to divert its Central Valley water to LA and San Diego (or tell people to stop trying to live where there isn't enough water). So in a sense due to the fungibility of water the only reason Cali is able to produce so much in its Central Valley is because the western states are taking care of SoCal for them.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Square / Eng SQ
      @Wimi83, it sounds like your stats understanding is pretty weak. Nate silver shows the breakdown percentages of those that voted for Trump and those that didn't. The correlation is around education. If you want to make the argument that the high income earners in blue states are uneducated, then good luck. It's not saying that all educated and high income earners make up the GDP, but it's pretty obvious when you consider the demographics of Silicon Valley, Seattle, Austin, Chicago, NYC, etc.

      Political maps of state counties show that the counties with higher income earning and education voted blue. Awful lot of coincidences.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Facebook >🐜 🐶 <
      @SQ said: “Just stating a fact. Hillary won 472 counties totaling 64% of the GDP”

      Stats actually show that those who contribute most to GDP ironically voted Trump. Damn those stats!
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Raytheon / Other CIAO4MEOW
      Guys it’s been a year, by now I’d expect for those upset with the outcome have gotten over it by now, and for those in favor of the outcome to not kick a dead horse.
      Nov 27, 2017
    • Amazon Dssa
      How is this relevant to ops post? The exact numbers are irrelevant - let's just agree that a sizeable portion of this country supports the current President. Why is it that it's so taboo for Trump supporters to be open about it? Even if he hadn't won the election, the point remains that we need to be tolerant of other viewpoints.

      And before liberal snowflakes jump at me, I'm a first generation naturalized immigrant from a Muslim country. Not that any of that should even matter.
      May 10, 2018
  • Cerner / Eng
    67afcd7d

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    67afcd7dmore
    The problem is that this industry is full of intelligent people, some Democrats, some Republicans, but none of them Trump supporters, because that makes you an idiot.
    Nov 24, 2017 12
    • Amazon Zuck4Prez
      THANK YOU
      Nov 25, 2017
    • BlackBerry 🤖Native👽
      OP, you do support him so he has a case in point
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon / Product Section X
      Apparently, people think enforcing our borders and immigration laws is racist.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • BlackBerry 🤖Native👽
      The president is a racist. Go figure
      Nov 25, 2017
    • BlackBerry 🤖Native👽
      You’re so clever...not!
      Talking about your beloved president Trump
      Nov 25, 2017
  • VMware / Sales dgPu18
    "I honestly feel the Republicans in tech are experiencing the same marginalization and persecution similar to what gays had to endure in the past"

    So you're looking for a company where Trump supporters don't have to face persecution similar to gays in the past? Presumably you're talking about the threat of being beaten to death? I don't think you need to worry about that at any company really. Seriously, what made you think that was a concern?
    Nov 25, 2017 14
    • Amazon / Other MiddleWest
      Being gay isn’t a choice. Supporting a divisive racist incompetent hack IS a choice, so it’s a big difference. I don’t have much sympathy for grown adults who make conscious choices. You’re dealing with logical consequences for your decisions, which is something I thought the GOP championed.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • VMware / Sales dgPu18
      "Being gay got you terminated"
      "I think that's a very real danger for Trump supporters. Of course, it will be excused on something else. How else would you explain our fear?"

      I think the underlying discord is that your support of Trump clashes with your desire for protection. This administration is actively removing job discrimination for being gay. So to say that your a Trump supporter is to support policies of job discrimination. But you don't want to be fired for your personal views. *Shrug* Again, you're doing a terrible job of drawing the parallel.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng
      hhryjfd

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      hhryjfdmore
      Being gay is not a choice, demonstrating or signaling that you are gay at work (or during work related social gatherings) is absolutely a choice. Many people hold political opinions are strongly as other people hold religion or their sexuality. Many are ready to die for political cause! Dismissing political views as choice is going against how human work.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Google Glyndwr
      I have seen literal calls for violence against Trump supporters on open company wide fora. The people in question were not fired and the posts not removed. This is not an exaggeration.
      Jan 5, 2018
    • Amazon C Martel
      @Glyndr and I'm sure everyone is scared to be associated with the right, so nobody complains about such post, further giving them legitimacy. This will only stop when G starts realizing it bleeds good engineers due to this nonsense.
      Jan 7, 2018
  • Microsoft iidhns
    Coal mine?
    Nov 24, 2017 1
    • Facebook public
      +1 I hear coal is up and coming
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Oracle Scores
    You say you voted trump, I lose respect for you instantly even if you are Steve Jobs. If you are my team mate I will switch. If you are my manager I will switch my job. I want nowhere near a trump supporter.
    Nov 24, 2017 10
    • Sciton / Eng vecE27
      I hope you meant Charlottesville, VA (not Charlotte). And maybe you're not that familiar with details of those events as you think you are.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Medallia / Other SirElton
      Si, Charlottesville
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Google liam
      Peter Thiel still quite respected, surprise.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon / Product Section X
      Hysterical liberals really compare Trump supporters to a group that started the most destructive war in human history, killed 6 million Jews, and countless others simply because of their race. Yup; liberals have totally lost it.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Facebook riderx
      The amount of intolerance for other people’s view points in this thread is ridiculous
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Amazon yaBoi
    Don’t talk about politics at work. And that’s not a good enough reason to use the word molested lmao.
    Nov 24, 2017 19
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      yMcg you had some thoughtful observations, don't lose touch with reality.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Facebook Sona
      There’s a lot of name bashing at fb. I hear it constantly. Some times I even take a mild part in it
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Microsoft
      yMcg47

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      Name bashing online goes both ways, just look at this thread. It’s a childish and unfortunate fact of life.

      I just haven’t seen at work. Maybe i am not the norm
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Microsoft
      yMcg47

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      Yea if you ask them... that is fair game.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon SwamiNithy
      I remember Facebook people were pretty brash and rude to each other during personal debates.

      And Wimi... Most Latinos are conservative?? Are you on crack? I forgot you're the same one that said Amazon is a dying dinosaur and IBMs research arm is better or some whackass shit.
      Nov 26, 2017
  • Netflix / Eng WhtShldIDo
    You can move to Russia?
    Nov 24, 2017 6
    • Shepherd on Fox News even debunked the whole Hillary uranium thing, grow a brain.
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      But her emails... and Benghazi...and Seth Rich. There has to be something sinister about her because they want to believe it so much.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      hackhorseymore
      The pictures on Facebook... they had words in IMPACT FONT. Obviously they’re all true.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      @wimi83 I’d say it’s a pretty accurate caricature of most Trumpsters I’ve encountered. The majority insist she’s a “criminal” of some sort, but can’t even articulate what exactly was so egregious about the email matter.

      Beyond that, though, the common thread is a need to rationalize their own inadequacies by believing that more successful women and minorities got there by cheating in one way or another.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      Keep telling yourself, buddy. The city of SF went 90% for Clinton. The Bay Area as a whole was overwhelmingly blue. You really have to get to the edges of the Bay Area before you find significant trump support.

      http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-california-neighborhood-election-results/
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Square / Eng
    hackhorsey

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    hackhorseymore
    Aw... poor persecuted white boy.

    Go work at Walmart. They are your people now.
    Nov 24, 2017 9
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      hackhorseymore
      And you might as well work at the slate rock gravel company... what’s your point?
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Amazon 🦃🦃 the
      LMAO loving this tier-4 companies face off
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon / Product Section X
      Trump actually won every income group above $50k/year.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Nintendo / IT . 🐈.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • New / Design incognituz
      “I know millionaire and billionaire liberals” 😂😂
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Amazon / Other MiddleWest
    The difference between Trump supporters and LGBT people is that gay people are A) just born that way, whereas you choose to support Trump and B) gay people generally don’t champion divisive and hurtful policies, whereas supporting Trump means at the very least you’re fine with a racist who brags about assaulting women and has several women alleging that he did what he bragged about to them.

    Supporting Trump is a choice. Do not in any way compare yourself to people who’ve been marginalized for immutable traits.

    If you’re a conservative, that’s fine—it’s good, actually, because the left needs a strong counter-balance. But Trumpism isn’t conservatism. I do understand why someone would have voted Trump, but to continue to support him? Yeah, that’s questionable.

    I’d keep your mouth shut. You might not replicate Trumpism in your interpersonal behavior, but you’re at least complicit with it and if you can’t understand why so many people are deeply troubled by Trump, then you’re too stupid to be at Amazon, and I despise intentional stupidity and ignorance.
    Nov 25, 2017 3
    • Indeed / Mgmt TheRight1
      You, and other bigoted people like you, are the exact reason why Trump wins.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon / Other MiddleWest
      😂 what exactly was the bigoted thing I said? Quite confused. Please clarify.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon Amazombie1
      “supporting Trump means at the very least you’re fine with a racist” - nice hyperbole. You may view Trump as racist but others do not.
      That you so brashly assume this to be fact shows you do not care to listen to the views of his supporters
      Dec 1, 2017
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  • eBay gojilla
    Keep politics out of the workplace. Don't care if you're on the left or the right. People who spend their workday self-stratifying themselves into political affiliations are wasting everyone's time. Go home and do it on your own time.
    Nov 24, 2017 2
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      Exactly. Any tips of companies that make this official policy? That would be to my liking.
      Nov 24, 2017
    • eBay gojilla
      Nope; no company can make that an official policy.
      Nov 24, 2017
  • Wayfair b_l_t
    “Unmolested”? Really?
    Nov 24, 2017 7
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      I have a family to feed, I don't come to work to deal with politics, and endure abusive people such as yourselves.
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Square / Eng
      hackhorsey

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      hackhorseymore
      You have my deepest apologies, snowflake.
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Facebook Sona
      I’d like to meet hackhorsey in real life
      Nov 25, 2017
    • BlackBerry 🤖Native👽
      How about buttwhacked?
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Oracle Scores
    I hear Roy Moore is making Alabama a nice place for child molesters. Move there.
    Nov 24, 2017 5
    • New / Other
      MachoMan

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      There is not a single accusation that is credible, far worse things have come out from sexual harassment in silicon valley and hollywood
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Oracle Scores
      Yes I do. There’s enough evidence. And any trump voter is actually worse than a child molester. You guys support nazis white supremacy. You are the text book definition of anti christ. You guys do what Jesus told not to do. God have mercy on your souls when you burn in hell. In fact I think it is an easy decision for god to let you burn for eternity.
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      Half the country is Nazi @scores, really?
      Nov 24, 2017
    • Medallia / Other SirElton
      ^says the guy spouting the infowars Hillary uranium story in the thread above...what a joke
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Medallia / Other SirElton
      Dude, google it. “Shepard Fox News uranium.” Not that hard.
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Amazon Elixr
    I am a Muslim immigrant and while I'm not a Trump supporter, I very much agree that the culture in tech has become homogeneous and resistant to accept the views of half this country.

    Just look at the hostility in this thread. Good job liberals, keep marginalizing half the country and keep losing elections.
    Nov 25, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Product Section X
    I'm also a Trump supporter at Amazon. Politics comes up more frequently than what I'm comfortable with. I actually pretend to be a liberal SJW and talk about how amazing Hillary would have been as President and how we need more affirmative action. I'm a pretty good actor; my colleagues are all fooled.
    Nov 25, 2017 3
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      You do? It will rot you on the inside. You can't earn trust if you're constantly lying. It's not good for you to play this game.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Sciton / Eng vecE27
      Wow! Interesting. I wouldn't be able to do it. But I guess everyone solves the problem the way they can.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • SAP / Eng HKIx16
      I once said that affirmative action should be scrapped as it is hitting the deserving Asian candidates. My Mexican colleague almost shouted at me in the lunch room. He would have to full war had I not backed off.
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Expedia thankful
    Interesting comments. OP is trying to get away from biased treatment in real life and precisely receives the same on blind too.
    Nov 25, 2017 7
    • Expedia NaaN
      Op, there’s an obvious answer here -find large tech companies or companies that have technical roles operating in red states, or rather, red cities.
      Though a word of warning from someone who’s lived in such a state-regardless on whether I agree with politics or not, if you have children that narrows down your options significantly ;finding the right schools will be very hard.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      NaaN - can you elaborate on the school issues?
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Expedia NaaN
      If you like stem minded education, you’re going to have to either pay for private school or home school your children. Some regions are worse than others, especially for focus on stem fields/funding and availability of decent teachers.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Asana / Eng imrandom
      The "why don't you move back to your home country" argument is something I'm used to getting from right-wingers. Jarring to see it coming from a liberal.
      Nov 30, 2017
    • Amazon Amazombie1
      I can’t understand yooouu go back to yer countreee - Clayton Bigsby
      Dec 1, 2017
  • Microsoft 10ftTaller
    Where did I defend Nazis? And the tolerant left strike again, wishing harm on people who disagree with them.
    Nov 25, 2017 8
    • Amazon / Product Section X
      @osAa52 the fact that there are Nazis who support Trump doesn't mean that racism is the driving force behind Trump's election, nor does it say anything about his supporters on the aggregate. Given that 63 million people voted for him, you will invariably find some who are indeed vile.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Facebook / Eng
      hhryjfd

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      Some liberals are communists and communists literally killed more people than nazis (including my great grand dad). They also officially branded my then 8 year old grandma daughter of enemy of the state). Western world has vaccine against fascism (and demographic just could not support fascist state) but unfortunately communism and other left wing offshoots are still considered ok.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Amazon osAa52
      You seem to be referring to Soviets, specifically Stalin? Let’s be factual, here. Stalin was a dictator. “Communists” didn’t kill people - The dictatorial, authoritarian Soviet regime killed people because in Communist Russia the individual had no value compared to the system or the leadership. When it gets down to it, there were more similarities than differences between the motivations of Stalin and Hitler in choosing to murder their own people. The lesson here is that democracy is worth cherishing. Authoritarianism, in all its cloaks and colors, must be fought. This is why, when Donald Trump puts on his authoritarian airs, people lose their minds and flip out. It’s rightfully scary to those who cherish democracy.

      Now, saying “some liberals are communists” isn’t exactly accurate either. Definitionally “liberal communist” is an oxymoron. Far-left liberals believe in social justice, government-protected equality, extreme personal civil liberties up to the point that they may impact another person (marry whoever you want, smoke whatever you want, choose to have an abortion if you want, etc.). Soviet Russia, aka the Communists, believed in none of these things.

      There has been a shortcut conflation between “redistribution of wealth” and “communism”. Communism, as implemented by Soviet Russia, is a destructive form of authoritarian politics that has no place in American democracy, and rightfully few supporters. No sane person believes we should be like Soviet Russia. What you more accurately mean when you call Democrat liberals “Communists” is that they are Democratic Socialists, which is to say that they believe in Democracy as a political system and Socialism as an economic system that supports the liberal goals of social justice, equality, and individual liberty.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon PsPH25
      OP
      There was never an implementation of communism that didn't devolve into a murderous dictatorship, nor can there be.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Amazon osAa52
      You entirely missed my point.

      I agree with you on your point that communism, as a political system, is anti-democratic and turns into a dictatorship. Even China, the most successful Communist country, has had its moments of murderous dictatorship.

      I disagree that most sane liberals believe our politics should be run like Communist China or Soviet Russia, and therefore disagree that calling liberals “Communists” is accurate. As described in my prior post, more accurate is “Social Democrat” or “Democratic Socialist”. The Nordic model is one example of a successful social democracy.
      Nov 26, 2017
  • Square / Eng SQ
    Oh my God stop being dramatic. Did you literally just compare yourself to what the gay community had to endure in the past?

    Did you have your rights taken away? Were you denied marriage? A job? Your livelihood? A house? Were you physically beaten up by a group? Did you fear for your life? Did you fear your family will kick you out and never talk to you again? Do you fear losing all of your friends? What about people looking at you with absolute disgust.

    Kind of ironic isn't it? Your party can't accept what the country prefers (gay marriage), yet your party believes in holding them down. And now you're somehow comparing people to not liking your political affiliations to what gays had to endure from people like you.

    What a baby. Fucking saying it's like what your people have been doing to the gay community.

    People are mad because you literally endorsed someone that's taking their rights away. And you're telling them to suck it up. You're a piece of shit.
    Nov 25, 2017 3
    • Amazon nutell4🍫
      Thanks for your balanced argument and efforts for a constructive debate. If you are Democrat I think it demonstrate your ability to debate in public
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Sciton / Eng vecE27
      "You're a piece of shit" is a strong argument coming from a tolerant lib fighting for rights.
      Nov 26, 2017
    • Expedia yo_mang
      Lol of u wore a MAGA hat in say NYC or Chicago, you would be assaulted. Ditto for Seattle or SF.
      Nov 26, 2017
  • New / Other
    MachoMan

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    Hang in there, dems are getting beaten up, losing majority and most have finally realised how bad of a candidate hillary was and that she did not win in a ‘landslide’. People are slowly coming to realisation that silicon valley is indeed a bubble that does not value or tolerated diverse ideas. Kudos to the google guy for writing the menifesto, his firing indeed opened up the window on bias people like you and me receive
    Nov 24, 2017 1
    • Uber HAProxy
      Lol. Wait for the midterms. We will see who is in the majority then.
      Nov 25, 2017
  • Microsoft 10ftTaller
    Op, know you are not alone. The SJW libtards aren’t remotely majority they are just the most vocal and obnoxious cause they believe they have the moral superiority, just like how the communists were. Focus on your job, take care of your family, your community and vote on MAGA issues. The wall will get built, illegals will have to go back, democrats are the real pedos, and communists are worse than Nazis.
    Nov 25, 2017 3
    • Square / Eng SQ
      It's sad to see people who are apparently educated say things like libtards and repugs. And anyone who defends Nazis. Jesus. I hope you get outed just for that comment.
      Nov 25, 2017
    • Apple StoveJeebs
      Square: yur an idiot
      Dec 15, 2017
    • HealthNow / Eng binarycafe
      *you're
      Feb 19, 2018