Why the discrimination in levelling the engineers and the PMs? It is not like this in other companies like Microsoft.
I think pay for L6 PM is similar to L5 SDEs in Amazon
L6 PM comp in a lot of cases is only slightly more than an L4 SDE -thatās why
LOL. This isnāt even close to true. The lowest paid L6 PM makes more than the highest paid SDE2 on my teams. There could be a case where that flips for a more senior SDE2, but an SDE1 is not even close... Sr Pm is ~30-50% higher.
amzn11 How much does that Sr PM and highest SDE2 make?
What do experienced engineers with MBA get hired as in Amazon?
Depends. Some might come in as PMsāSr, Principal, maybe Sr managerāothers as BizTech leads.
I joined as a post-mba PM L6. Total comp my first year was around $200k. Made L7 in the latest promo cycle.
How long to get promoted?
Listen. Why in the holy fuck would an engineer take a shitty L5 job at Amazon. Your job will be to get that zero experience L6 MBA fuck to L7.
Itās an excellent question. Some PMās are great and absolutely worth their compensation, crucial for Amazonās growth with great ideas and operational know-how. They can also deal with an absurd about of bullshit and pressure from all sides, so itās not an easy role. Then again, plenty of them are moronic stooges who excel at taking up space and little else. And a few divert a bunch of valuable resources to overblown, worthless āpromote me to L7, please!ā pet projects. The worst offender Iāve seen was in Books, didnāt even launch the project before getting promoted. Hopefully an isolated event.
Fresh MBA =/= Fresh professional. A āfresh MBAā has 3-5 years of work experience usually, often more.
Because itās a garbage, bureaucratic company
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Is pay scale for PM and Eng different level for level there? That could be why.
Yes, PMs gets paid significantly less than SDE at the same level. Also, most PM going straight to L6 are from top business schools + already have 3-5 years of work experience.