(Inflammatory) Why do women feel entitled to be treated fairly for their life choices?
Inflammatory topic! Only on blind!! A recent blind post reminded me of this argument I have always seen. Usually it goes like the guys go out to drink, but I can't tag along because I don't drink and have to pick up my kids, so therefore tech sucks and I am being discriminated. Here's my take - Discriminating by genitalia when there is an objective measurement is not ok - Discriminating by lifestyle choices that are correlated (but not caused by genitalia) is not ok What does this means? In the first situation, if the best person for team lead by all objective criteria - leadership, people skill, experience, technical skills... points to a woman. She gets the job. Your buddy who doesn't know how to reverse an array does not. In the second situation, usually related to child rearing is not an excuse. In that after office hours example, it was YOUR choice to have a kid (I assume you were not raped or coereced) so you know it will come with consequences. So why do so many women feel so entitled when they know life style choices may impact their career negatively? Yes we can argue women bear an unfair burden and workload for childrearing but that's a SOCIETAL problem not an issue related to a professional workplace. And you always have a way out don't have kids. Then this usually leads to I have to compromise argument. Guess what? That's life!!! If I work 30hrs/wk I will likely not do as well as people who do 40hrs/wk. And if you have a kids, the probability that it will affect your career is going to be nonzero. You know the risk, you are adult, you make a choice then you live with it. I'll give you a third scenario. I must my watch evening cartoons, so I can't hang out after hours. Why then am I not entitled to speak out that people are not treating me fairly? I give you a ridiculous examples, yes... But what makes my lifestyle choice less important than yours...?
I mildly agree but also think the concerns are overblown. Environmental concerns aside (which maybe should be the main question, idk), societies have a vested interest in encouraging people to procreate and then raise healthy functional humans. It’s more than just a purely personal choice. So for the same reason that I’m OK with funding public schools even though not every taxpayer have kids, I’m ok with workplaces making reasonable extra accommodations for parents.
Ok... I can somewhat understand with for the greater societal good point of view, although I don't fully agree. I would be more inclined to agree if childrearing is a burden that nobody wants. So then way we find ways to compensate and make things fair for those with children. But most of the times, these families want children, it's something they opt into, not shoved into their faces.
It’s easy to say “that’s a societal problem, not a professional workplace problem”. Ok, so let’s talk about the societal problem then. Shifting around definitions and playing semantics doesn’t change the fact that there’s a prickly problem underlying all of this - I’m not sure why you’re so eager to sweep it under the rug.
I'm just saying women have a choice on whether or not to have kids. From that sense many gender complaints are lifestyle choices not inherrent things like your race (can't change that) or medical disability (didn't ask for that)
I wish your mom had made that choice decades ago. You wouldn't be here saying all this nonsense.
Lay off the pipe.
Anyone else feels like this post is too long to read.
tldr. If you have children, be prepared for the negative consequences that it will have on your career, learn how to manage, life is never fair so stop complaining about every minute 'sexist' thing. If you don't want to deal with this, don't have kids, this is not the 19th century, women are not baby making machines.
Yep. Saw that I had to scroll to read the OP, made an audible nope, scrolled right down to comments.
The cant drink after work issue applies to the father too, not just the mother. Whoever thought that's only a problem for women is sexist.
I have a teenager and another in elementary. One of them has special needs. It’s all a collaborative effort. Again don’t mean to be rude but will read your post clearly and think and answer. The weight of the world is on my shoulders and work is just beginning now after my 1.4 hour commute.
My husband and I switch off watching the kids after work. I have work events three nights next week and I know that he'll take care of stuff while I'm gone. Having kids is a choice and this was kind of a stupid post.
This is a Male dominated perspective... and narrative... you first have to accept that some of the 'choices' that you say a woman is making are not really choices the way you see them. Once you understand that maybe you will have a better appreciation for this perspective
Aren’t you glad your mom sacrificed her career to have and care for you?
Why do you care so much ?
I don't. I just wanted to see if blind can have a rational objective discussion on this.
It's doubtful you'll get a decent discussion on Blind about this, TBQH. I'd love to be proven wrong on this.