https://www.businessinsider.in/Hundreds-of-Amazon-employees-used-an-anonymous-app-to-vent-about-how-the-recent-suicide-attempt-was-handled/articleshow/55926977.cms For those of us outside of the Amazon forum, is this an accurate temp of the general climate? How many ppl are blaming the PIP?
Pip = picture in picture?
performance improvement plan. aka you gonna get fired soon
I don't think people in America can handle pressure and hard work as well as in places like India, etc where hard work and stress are dealt with in stride. Feel sorry for the person but we need a culture that makes it easier to deal with stress rather than encourage luxuries and vacationing...
Wasn't the jumper Indian? Another jumper several years ago at Qualcomm was
@Imma that's the most ignorant statement I'd heard all day. I'd worked in India and still have friends there. I know a few cases where people went into depression because of job related stress, and took a lot to recover.
For God sake why bring a country into a question with such a post. Share your condolences/worries/thoughts for the person, take a pledge that you will ensure well being of people around you. Suicide is a big step for anyone, people around that person need to see what signs were apparent. Managers should help people choose new career paths or show upside of life in addition to just PIP
Sorry but Amazon isn’t the only one to have issues with suicides. Microsoft universal team as well as azure had 2 successful suicides both directly related to Microsoft and how they felt they were treated there. Why didn’t anyone hear about them in the media? 🤔
News of suicide can entice others, they are suppressed for other reasons and not just because of transparency/media. There maybe many others contemplating the same, it May push them over the ledge. Each case is different and needs to be handled differently. These news are not meant to be sensationalised but rather down played to contain the damage to that employee, his family and others people who maybe in same situation.
I think suicides are rarely ever due to adversity. The underlying depression and anxiety that puts a negative bend on everything is more likely to blame. The adversity is just a confounding factor. What to do? Bring awareness to depression as an illness so people can be more likely to realize what hit them and seek help. Otherwise the negative thoughts make them believe it's all on them.
You’ve clearly never worked for a monstrosity if s company. I’m not prone to depression at all, and certainly not suicide, but just 2 months at a company that shall remain nameless sucked the life out of me. I quit without having a job lined up -there was no time to study for interviews. I was only able to do so because I had no family obligations, no children and zero other obligations. Now imagine someone who has to support a family in my place.
Google had a couple successful suicides in 30 days at Tech Corners a few years back. No media. They did send out an email for one because the top floor of one building could see the ambulance and body loaded.
Who has the email the jumper sent?
Imo culture/climate has improved significantly since that event. There are still a shit ton of PIPs though. A lot of them are for good reason, but there’s a sizable chunk that seem aimed at pushing out employees totally unrelated to their performance.
Is the increase of PIPs related to the lowered hiring bar that I keep hearing about?
There’s forced attrition of like 5-7%. Normally not a bad idea, but if you have a team of all stars, you’re going to have an all star PIPd.