International Women’s Day - let’s call out the fakers

Mar 7, 2018 124 Comments

I’ll start. Hootsuite. I have kept quiet for a long time about my very negative experience working for Hootsuite but having recently seen someone else go very public about her own experiences of discrimination and then after having been let go finding her face used on their website to promote diversity AS WELL AS seeing the company’s recent jump on the bandwagon efforts to pretend they’re supportive of women, families, minorities, diversity for International Women’s Day (when they also ripped off an artist’s illustration without her prior permission), I’m speaking up. At least here, for now. Working there was the most negative experience of my working career. It was a toxic, misogynistic, sexist, racist, hom*phobic bro-culture. It comes from the top and they’re trying to promote a different culture now that does not exist in there. They have a secret party room / bar in the basement car park in their HQ, they still promote a toxic masculinity / party, drinking culture and anyone that’s professional and that doesn’t row in gets excluded and won’t get any promotion / career path. The stories of discrimination are starting to come out now that more and more employees are being ‘quietly exited’, and leaving. I suffered sexual discrimination and was made feel uncomfortable on numerous occasions. The sexual assault stories will start to come out soon. #metoo
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  • Autodesk inmyeyes
    I found the employees and environment at Hootsuite to be great. I checked the hashtag #cancelhootsuite and it looks like just one prior employee who was let go is posting rather aggressively.
    Mar 7, 2018 15
    • Undisclosed / Eng twoshoes
      "and potentially how you make people feel" says the person who jumped to conclusions about being a "straight white male"... Or Asian... Simply because they disagreed with you.

      When you assume people will agree with you, and then try to discredit anyone as out of touch and tone deaf (aka, "privileged") simply because they didn't back you up... You come across more as entitled than a victim.

      I'm not discrediting anything you said - I obviously did not observe your situation. However, you need to consider how you present your message, if you want to rally people.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Nordstrom peaches3
      Op sounds like a total tool who is a complete jerk to everyone. No wonder she got fired. Probably for all her sexist and racist remarks like she makes here.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Pinterest UhmWho?
      Op ignore this fool. You are definitely right here that this is one of those bro boys that does that the harassment.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • LinkedIn qj818
      Lolll op sounds like a fool
      Mar 15, 2018
    • Undisclosed xwuR43
      Op! Ignore the people who are being insensitive to your experience here. Completely understand your frustrations towards the ignorant response, questioning the validity of your claim, just because that person did not experience the same.

      I agree response from Autodesk is infuriating and belittling. Ignore it

      For all you know it is the company HR hoping to discredit you and the Instagram thread by belittling your claim and intimidating you to go public

      t response warrants no
      Mar 21, 2018
  • New / Eng RhpJ71
    More power to the likes of you who stand up to injustice.
    Mar 7, 2018 3
    • Illumina / Other
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      > I have kept quiet for a long time about my very negative experience

      How is that standing up to anything?
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Uber Pir4te
      So since someone waited to stand up you’re going to discredit them for doing so? Wtf?
      Mar 9, 2018
    • New
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      @Halfloat have you ever been a victim of sexual harassment or discrimination? Sometimes it's tough to speak out for a variety of reasons.

      And shaming ppl for speaking out, even if it's after a long time, is fucking backwards.

      Celebrate ppl who are finally speaking up. It'll encourage others and keep this positive trend going
      Mar 14, 2018
  • Salesforce / Eng Bananarama
    OP, your obvious attempts to weaponize race and gender are shockingly regressive and bigoted. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    Mar 7, 2018 7
    • Salesforce / Eng Bananarama
      Which of course casts a very different light on the nature of the OP post in general. Simply because someone says something occurred does not make it true, and here in the U.S. we still have a little thing called "innocent until proven guilty." A party who cries wolf about discrimination and harassment does extreme harm to those who actually suffer from those things. If you can't understand this simple bit of reason, I'm not concerned what you think about "data structures and algorithms etc."
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Undisclosed New1
      @salesforce, why do you assume OP is lying? Because one person posted saying the culture is ok there? Maybe that person lying instead? In my book, the score is one - all so far.

      Quite often, cultures and exposure vary by group to group. Maybe they are both correct from their own experience.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Airbnb GtfV12
      If you refuse to believe women and other underrepresented groups about their experiences, because you think they’re “crying wolf” (old moralistic fable presupposing falsehood) or men are “innocent until proven guilty” (irrelevant language outside criminal prosecution context), then you are 100% part of the problem and there is no place for you in the technology industry, which will move faster without you. Be less shitty or get swept into the dustbin of history.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Microsoft / Sales FY18?
      @GtfV12 you may wish what you say to be true but replace everything that you just said with a male accusing a female and I am positive you have a different attitude. I am sure we all want to make sure that people that claim injustice have actually had an injustice perpetrated upon them rather than just believing it outright.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Eng
      ^ personally I don't see any problem with replacing all instances of "women" with "men". Harassment is definitely an issue no matter who it occurs to.
      Mar 15, 2018
  • OP
    You reminded me - anyone that wants a look into the truth at this place. Just search ‘100 eat d*ck’ and Hootsuite - how the CEO acts/thinks and this was his response to a reporter publicly on social media. Yes, the irony of promoting his company and himself as thought leaders. The truth comes out in the end. Ultimately karma will tell if the company fails, which if you search other posts here many are saying they are, running out of money, haven’t IPO’d and can’t get acquired and so on. A few of those toxic individuals are already millionaires so they’ll be laughing to the back / wont care about the hundred of people out of jobs in Vancouver but there are other ways other than money that things catch up with people. Look at Weinstein
    Mar 7, 2018 9
    • Undisclosed Anyone1
      Anyone who thinks the CEOs behavior is acceptable, needs to grow up.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Amazon / Mgmt TheSpheres
      Oh that's funny and smart. Perfect response to the reporter really.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Capital One OpkN82
      That was actually quite funny!
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Undisclosed qTXq04
      Response by the CEO sounds immature and of someone with a huge ego
      Mar 10, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Eng
      It can be funny but it's still unprofessional. Save the joke for your friends, not as the public face of the company.
      Mar 15, 2018
  • Autodesk inmyeyes
    When you’re the only one trending a hashtag attempting to deface a company that has a pretty good track record and community behind what they do, you can’t get angry when someone asks questions. I don’t mean to devalue your opinion, I’m attempting to understand and share my own. I understand you feel crossed because they let you go, but corporate bullshit like that happens everywhere. Even if you’re struggling with depression, the suits behind the numbers don’t care. They look out for what’s best for revenue. And that’s true in any competitive business environment.
    Mar 7, 2018 5
    • New / Eng RhpJ71
      No, corporate BS like this does not happen everywhere. We need a welcoming workplace where everyone is allowed to be a little comfortable even if they don't associate with the majority culture. If a person has been violated to the point that he/she is ranting so much later, then you can only imagine what they went through. That kind of bullying needs to stop.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Salesforce / Eng Bananarama
      You are assuming that the one doing the ranting isn't the bully.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Eng RhpJ71
      You'd need to be sick to sustain this kind of bullying over time.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Other
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      I question the veracity of her comments. Someone once said; “When you think the whole world has something wrong with it, maybe it’s not the whole world that has the problem.” If this was actually an Uber more people would be coming out.
      Mar 9, 2018
    • This is not corporate bullshit. Are you going to support Women only when your own family members get sexually harassed? Honestly, people on blind disgust me on so many levels.
      Mar 10, 2018
  • Prosper / Eng jspaladin
    Asian here, not liking your tone about Asians, so you don't have my support. Just saying.
    Mar 7, 2018 6
    • OP
      I was actually referring to a stat - facts - about the composition of the workforce in tech there. I’m not sure where you read a tone but you’re entitled to believe what you like and support whoever you choose.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Prosper / Eng jspaladin
      I can't seem to find the thing you said about Asians anymore. Strange. Whatever.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Eng twoshoes
      Actually, no... You mentioned nothing about data and stats. But you did associate being straight white/Asian male with having avoided your experience, and being in a privileged position.

      So yah. Not a stat. A racist/anti cis male comment, no better than the discrimination you're accusing hootsuite of.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Tableau JB4738
      “Referred to” is quite different to “mentioned”, and it’s stupid to pretend that being called privileged is the same as being harassed or discriminated against. If you want to argue that men are just as heavily harassed as women or whatever you're trying to say, bring some data, don't just start crying about someone being mean to you by having said it.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Undisclosed / Eng
      I'm also Asian and see no issue with it. I'm well aware that being Asian grants me a huge advantage in some situations (my last company was slightly majority Asian).
      Mar 15, 2018
  • OP
    Ok, I am not the person you named. And I think that’s against the point of Blind? Perhaps check yourself before being banned here by trying to ‘out’ / name someone.

    Please read my post properly. I left the company of my own accord. I suffered in different ways to what you’re assuming (again, read the post properly). I have kept very quiet and amn’t affiliated with the person you named - I have never spoken to her. Also, I didn’t get angry. I asked some questions back (which unlike me you conveniently chose to ignore). Yes, the corporate world can be a jungle and tough out there but please stop discrediting my and many others particularly bad experiences T this particular company. Perhaps you fully vested your shares or you’re friends with some of the OG’s or you are one, so naturally you have a conflict of interest. So try look at things from other’s perspectives. Good luck to you in your career and glad to see you got out to go to a good company (I believe).
    Mar 7, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Product
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      Ban for asking if someone is someone? Hahah wtf
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Twilio yyu67g
      Poor poor snowflakes. Littlest but of heat and you melt away. #boohoo
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      Perhaps educate yourself on the purpose and policy of this app. Good luck!
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Flagged by the community.

  • HERE / Other tagir1987
    Go and file the lawsuit, don't just fuck in an anonymous social network. That's retarded practice and you won't achieve anything. *Dark middle eastern immigrants here, haven't seen ANY privilege for others in my life, including myself. Work hard, be true, earn experience and go up the ladder. That's the only way of doing anything in this live. Even in my retarded dictatorship country.
    Mar 7, 2018 7
    • OP
      Right, just like the 100’s of rich, privileged US actors and athletes spoke out and sued right away. As you can see from some of these replies, yours included, people don’t like when a few speak out, it’s only when truth can’t be denied that it’s believed.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • HERE / Other tagir1987
      You are just playing with words, jumping from one to another topic. This is a stupid tactics, which won't be accepted even during the school debates. A person or anybody else is not guilty, until proven. This is the basics of the human rights and you are just trying to abuse it. I don't care about this specific company, but of you have facts - the company will be fucked. Trying to push your agenda in a such way is CANCER and TOXIC (by your own words).
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      Em, I’m replying to people’s posts. I don’t have an agenda here (what’s in this for me exactly?)
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Amazon / Mgmt TheSpheres
      Attention. And validation. Which you never get enough of. Even at hootsuite.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Tableau JB4738
      If you’ve never seen privilege then the likeliest explanation is that you’ve misunderstood the entire concept.
      Mar 8, 2018
  • Hootsuite vtMM62
    As a woman I believe it’s bad form to approach the subject by radically dismissing the opinion of people you think are “privileged”. Just because someone is white (or Asian, in this case) doesn’t automatically mean they’re privileged. Doesn’t matter what the internet SJWs have been telling you. Ignoring their experiences and opinions is bad form and goes contrary to what you’re trying to accomplish in general.
    Also, obviously someone “different” than you doesn’t have the same experiences as you, and sometimes they might need your help to understand (surprise, this also happens with people that “look like” you), it doesn’t mean they’re incapable of empathy.
    If you try to get our point across by dismissing other groups, no one wins.
    With all that said, I still believe in you.
    Mar 7, 2018 4
    • Coursera Lmnop12345
      If you’re white you’re privileged, period. You have advantages in life because of your skin color. But that still doesn’t mean you can ignore their experiences and opinions.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Twilio yyu67g
      @lmnop. Travel outside of the US for fucks sake. It'd do wonders for your perspective.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      Thanks for believing me but perhaps let’s not get caught in a reply to someone else’s comment and focus on the content of the original post. I’m not ignoring other’s experiences but I am countering those that are trying to take over this thread and disagree with mine (all HS good employees; no doubt there’s an internal campaign going to improve the reputation and fake reviews being listed now on Glassdoor etc.) When you finally leave that place, I hope you all see the light. You can have a career in tech AND feel good as a human. Peace!
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Coursera Lmnop12345
      @yyu I’m not from the US 😂
      Mar 7, 2018
  • Autodesk / Eng M__M
    Autodesk is pretty terrible. The women are talking about how they’re mistreated and underpaid. It’s a company full of middle age white and Asian men so it’s to be expected.
    Mar 7, 2018 5
    • NAVEX Global LndMnstr
      I had 1 interview there and they never called me again. Maybe it was for the best (I’m a woman).
      Mar 7, 2018
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      Yikes I think I'm in a toxic environment. What do I do, help! Matters worse, I'm too anxious to act. :(
      Mar 7, 2018
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      I'm just being nice n upholding my positive spirit and being giving. I hoe that will get me to a better place sooner than later
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Autodesk Autotroph
      Confirming that Adsk is pretty bad. I’ve been with the company for over 8 years and have only survived by keeping my head down and overachieving but not drawing attention to myself or being myself.

      Pretty much all the senior women that have gone though leadership development courses with me have been laid off. These were really high performers and we got rid of them or they left. It seems that the company actively manages out top women unless they conform. Many senior leaders model horrible behavior for their staff.
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Intel / Media Becky Poop
      They are now holding "women in tech" events at their HQ in downtown Portland. Is it a ruse?
      Jan 22
  • Undisclosed AJJh63
    Please ... stop this victimhood chic. If you don’t like a company’s culture then leave. A company wasn’t made to deal with your feelings. I’m sure there is some all female company you can go to so you can hate on men all day. Take some responsibility for yourself.
    Mar 7, 2018 3
    • Undisclosed SolarShift
      Is that you John Doerr?
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      I did leave. Learn to read perhaps. And take responsibility for your own self, you’re definitely part of the problem with an attitude like that. Who said I was female?
      Mar 7, 2018
    • NAVEX Global LndMnstr
      Gender discrimination is against the law. If women don’t speak up, things will never change.
      Mar 8, 2018
  • Hootsuite Malon3
    Regardless of Hootsuite culture in the past or even today, why is the international women's day event "fake"? The people putting it together are volunteers from teams across the entire org, coming together to make the company a better place. "The company’s recent jump on the bandwagon efforts to pretend they’re supportive of women, families, minorities, diversity for International Women’s Day." - the only way to make change is by jumping on the bandwagon.

    Maybe the company is sick, but a company is just people. I've noticed a genuine effort to improve the culture lately. Culture changes might not stick at first, but change isn't easy.
    Mar 7, 2018 1
    • OP
      Like I said above there are good - some good - people there. And if you’re one of them, power to you. Until that is, you burn out and suffer the same discrimination of all those that came before you there. You can’t slap lipstick on a pig. Also look up what jump on the bandwagon means - it’s a negative connotation, denotes opportunistic attitudes, and usually is all talk / public showmanship with no real sincerity or proper action behind it. Likely, they’ve lost so much good talent they have had to try turn around their reputation. Too little, too late. I know it’s hard (I struggled myself in there too trying to right things) but please try be objective, you’re a puppet to them if you think they value you and your diversity, don’t be complacent.
      Mar 7, 2018
  • Hootsuite / Other HQ0
    Been at the company 4+ years and this post is horse shit. Companies are people and there will always be some bad people no matter hard we try. Vast majority of people are incredible so quit shitting on our name.
    Mar 7, 2018 2
    • OP
      Possibly coming from someone that was employee >50 (cause they’ve been promised they’ll get rich if they sell their souls). I know it hurts but seeing as how you work there (still!) please try make it better in there for others, if you’ve been there long term and you enjoy it you likely have some influence and with that power comes responsibility. Think about it.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Hootsuite Huyawhorua
      It IS better for others now. I’ve been here for three years and the culture has changed so much in that time.

      I’m not sure when you left Hootsuite but everything I’m reading here from is unfair. There’s a reason that the #cancelhootsuite hashtag is getting no engagement!
      Mar 9, 2018
  • Undisclosed AJJh63
    Sounds like a cool place to work .... secret party room! Yay!
    Mar 7, 2018 2
    • Microsoft VfPN80
      Yeah that sounds awesome.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      Yeah so awesome if you’re a professional or a woman or someone that doesn’t want to encounter sexual harassment. You should join the nest! Surprise, they’re hiring!
      Mar 7, 2018
  • Undisclosed SolarShift
    That’s fucked up!
    Mar 7, 2018 0
  • Undisclosed / Eng VGqx42
    Someone didn’t get what they wanted :)
    Mar 7, 2018 1
    • OP
      I got out and have had a better career since. Fine by me but thanks for your assumption.
      Mar 7, 2018
  • Undisclosed New1
    One question, OP, you posted "toxic, misogynistic, sexist, racist, hom*phobic bro-culture". Why only one word has a * in it? What is special about not spelling out that word?
    Mar 7, 2018 3
    • OP
      Because Blind flags it unfortunately FYI @New1 but thanks for your contribution
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Undisclosed Blahs
      Wow! Any idea why would that word be the only one flagged?
      Mar 7, 2018
    • OP
      I think their algorithms are flagging the first part of the word as no doubt some of the tech Bros in here have used it in derogatory ways
      Mar 7, 2018
  • Hootsuite IzVJ12
    OF COURSE there’s sexism & racism at Hootsuite. In some instances it’s explicit, but in many more it’s based on implicit biases that *no one*, including women & people of colour, is immune. Hootsuite is not isolated from the larger proven societal issues and from firsthand experience, definitely agree that some cultural practices & HR responses to complaints/issues act to amplify these problems within the organization.

    So I 100% believe you, and I’m sure you have good reasons for not going into specifics (as do I) of your experience.

    That said, I hope to see deep change & a true embrace of inclusion and diversity that isn’t just window dressing l. I also hope that anyone joining the company does so with eyes wide open that Hootsuite has a long way to go & that there could be major challenges if you are a woman &/or POC.
    Mar 7, 2018 1
    • OP
      Thank you for sharing your words, a respectful, open and honest- sounding post to me. I appreciate you being a realist and being open to a healthy discussion and believing others. As well as being real with prospective candidates that he company has a long way to go. Refreshing to read a comment from someone at the company that doesn’t go straight on the defense. Telling.
      Mar 7, 2018
  • OP
    I believe I’ve responded to everyone so far and I’m going to bow out of this convo. I’m moving on... *cue the haters* but that’s ok. Maybe others can speak up or learn from this and share their own experiences at this company or elsewhere. We’re all human at the end of the day, just trying to survive. Let’s try make these places better for all of us though. I will try.
    Mar 7, 2018 4
    • Undisclosed / Eng twoshoes
      I'm guessing this thread didn't go quite like you thought it would.

      What could you have done differently to help it go more positively in the future?
      Mar 8, 2018
    • Flagged by the community.

    • Hootsuite Wasleyoff
      We *are* all human, and this was an attack on the good people of Hootsuite who are genuinely making an effort to change things. I’ve been here for three years now and it has come on in leaps and bounds from the early days. People cringe when they talk about how things used to be here, but it’s a mature and inclusive company now. Now perfect by any means, but we are getting there
      Mar 8, 2018
    • LinkedIn qj818
      Hahhahahahahahagah op is so stupid
      Mar 15, 2018
  • Hootsuite pNhp10
    OP, I am sorry that you had to bow out from all of the haters. Thank you graciously for sharing your story, and I hope that you are in a better, less toxic work environment now. Stories like yours truly make me sad that I am in such an environment myself.

    While I am still an owl, everything that you have talked about has resounded with me and I believe you 100%. These are things that I have noticed in the past, and I have even turned down having me image and name attached to articles about Hootsuite because I had chosen to not be associated with the Hootsuite name.

    While I still choose to work there because of the learning opportunities granted to me (and I consider myself very grateful that I work for a wonderful manager), I hope to be able to to my best to carry forward the experiences of yourself and others with similar stories and help transform my immediate work environment into something that is less sexist, less misogynist, and more conducive to the success of women and people of colour.

    Thank you again.
    Mar 8, 2018 1
    • Hootsuite Huyawhorua
      Good for you! Can you share some ideas of what needs to change? Honestly I feel like we’re heading in a good direction but if I can help in any way I’d love to
      Mar 9, 2018