Hey. Conflicted between the two options. Have been offered a promotion at intuit while FB made an impressive offer for a director position. How are the titles calibrated?
- Google / EngKanyewIntuit is probably the shittiest well paying company in the Bay Area. You will have to really amp up your game to make it work at FB. Politics may not work. Are you in your 20s or 30s? Otherwise you will almost certainly fail
- I always imagined ppl at levels of director/vp would have more inside info. Surprised to see the same questions from them on blind.
- Eng? Pm?
The FB comp will be good but it is notoriously hard to adjust to FB culture and many hires at your level wash out in 18-20 months. You need to factor that it.
Also, once you make vp at a public company, you are on the radar of top exec search firms. Director doesn't do that for you.
I'd politely decline FB. Stay at intuit for 2 years than try FB again.
- I work hard at intuit. So do other leaders. Ageism at facebeek could be an issue though I met quite a few old timers at the director level
- Depends on your definition of old timers. It's less an issue of being old, but more a matter of how quickly you will produce in the FB environment. Those old timers have been at FB for years and have deep internal relationships. You will be directly compared to them within a few months. Very few new people can drive more impact than those old timers at that level, which is why so few people at the director level survive past 18 months. I know of many examples of this.
- I don’t doubt their skill. Just commenting that most of them were older than 35 so ageism didn’t seem so overt. Re making the cut, same goes for intuit with material attrition at the 1-3 year mark. Particularly for senior leaders. We will see. I will keep the form updated
- FB is an elite company. Intuit is...not. Also I couldn't live with myself working at Intuit.
- VMware BkNJ73In many threads on Blind folks say that D1 comp at FB average is around $1M onwards. Here you are implying that the average is $700K, which is significantly lower.
So which is it? is the $1M a typical Blind-inflated number for D1 TC or is $700K underselling the TC.
Finally is there a difference in the comp between a SWE D1 working on infrastructure vs on the product/application side ?Jul 110
- Exactly. At that level survival is rare. FB is an immature company. They expect people at that level to ramp up in a few weeks like a fresh grad. Most companies with a clue recognize it takes much longer to ramp at that level.
Op will end up out of FB in 18 months without vp on their resume from intuit. Bad move.
- Facebook FB_ChangemorePick FB. They would provide new experiences and for someone at your level, am sure you know how to handle different stress levels. With company growth, you might have a chance to become VP in a few years. I am assuming SWE/PM. FYI - blind etiquette is to post Total compensation as part of post