Is FAANG the new tech oligarchy that’s destroying democracy?

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Jul 29, 2018 33 Comments

Democracy has been one of the greatest institutions of America. Recent events in the tech industry make me believe that we are headed towards a new oligarchy that will destroy American democracy.
Facebook controls our emotions
Amazon controls our supply chain
Apple controls our daily interactions
Netflix controls our “free” time
Google can predict what we think

FAANG already is deeply entrenched in every aspect of our lives. The more data they collect on us, the more power they wield over us, our politicians, and our government. Is it time to put a stop to them?

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  • Google Katelyn
    Stupid
    Jul 29, 2018 7
    • Google Katelyn
      “Just asking for an opinion”
      Pretty clear that’s false and this guy has his own opinion as he so ineloquently vomited 🤮 above his poll.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

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      You can have an opinion while asking others for their opinions. Have you ever been to a brainstorming meeting in your whole life?
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Google Katelyn
      Dude, keep up. I was clarifying what I was calling stupid because *you* mischaracterized it. I’m calling his opinion stupid, not “a poll”.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
      tc/gtfo

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      Hey dude, you wrote “stupid.” That comment is as vague as Trump farting on Twitter. Oh wait, Katelyn!
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Microsoft ghe$%
      They are effing things up
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Mojoman might be the dumbest boarder on here, and that's saying something. Here he claims to be concerned about democracy, but in a thread a few days ago he opined that only skilled workers should be able to have children. He has the absolute worst opinions and never stops posting.
    Jul 29, 2018 4
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      I said that having children causes overpopulation, regardless of whether skilled workers or unskilled.
      Jul 29, 2018
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      Through a data driven methodology I foresee a future where a system like Skynet will either let you have children or not, based on your income level. Frankly, only people who can afford to have kids should, not the vast majority of unskilled and under employed workers.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Apple EXQB54
      Mojoman that's messed up, you should feel bad.
      Jul 29, 2018
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      I remember this thread. We were talking about overpopulation and whether we should have a tax system where people have kids pay more taxes. I think someone else had said that taxing people with extra kids would not be the right way to go short of sterilization. Then the discussion went somewhere down how people who can’t afford kids always end up having kids, and that’s when I think I said that if things go this way, some sort of AI system like Skynet will decide for us, if we don’t take steps to halt population growth. My comment was taken out of context. The original thesis was that the government should Levy a per head tax for any child born in 2021 or later
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Oscar / Eng
    tc/gtfo

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    I actually like how you described their interactions in our lives today. It’s really accurate (although one would argue we ignoring Android). I think what you really wanted to say was these monopolies are creating a new culture, just the same way our great-great grandparents would visit a bar drinking and dancing to some Southern music (okay, just an example from typical midwest life on TV). However, they can control what we get to know and get to see, even though the “rebels” can also fight back by spreading truth via the same channels.

    One side effect of social media and technology is unfortunately how one runs politics, much like radios in the old days, except information is far reachable and extremely contiguous.
    Jul 29, 2018 3
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      Yeah, I should’ve included android as well because Google does have more touch points in our daily lives. The old days meant that radio stations could spread propaganda, but these days propaganda is spread through the culture that FAANG creates. And unfortunately, they have control over our politicians as well. They are a threat to American democracy as Facebook and Cambridge analytica clearly proved.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Oscar / Eng
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      Well, if you would agree that radio was one medium to spread propaganda in the old golden days, then you’d see the powerful people behind radio companies created the culture. It’s the same as before but by different people and different organization. Are they threat to democracy? Well, we know social media and Internet are threat to totalitarian regimes. But does having propaganda and a divided society threaten democracy? This country was not always unified. Is unification a requirement for democracy or rather unification is a requirement for a healthy and stable country? I think it’s the latter. In fact, when I said social media is a threat to totalitarian regimes, regimes are structures. So we can conclude that Internet and smart technologies have created a new culture threatening this country’s stability. A compromise in our election system, spread of false news has put this country in security risk. The democracy itself is never impacted. It’s the structure of society and the trust of government and its people seeing the impacts.
      Jul 29, 2018
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      Well said Oscar! +100 If I could
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Apple Okidoki
    I don’t think we need to break them, but I think we need to be attentive to the rules they are trying to break and better regulate. I do believe that GDPR was a little too late and even then it was only adopted by EU, not the US.
    Jul 29, 2018 2
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      Probably one of the most levelheaded comments I’ve seen over here.
      Jul 29, 2018
    • New RduS07
      We need data privacy laws. FAANG lobbies congress so that they don’t pass any data privacy laws.
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Google / Ops Huhf13
    Trolling
    Jul 29, 2018 2
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      Not trolling. Companies like Google no way too much about the average Joe. They must be broken up
      Jul 29, 2018
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      But then who will there be to run your fascist population control mechanism?
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Microsoft Cgy58
    Mojoman is stupid.
    Jul 29, 2018 1
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      Then fork all your data over and get controlled , stupid plebeian.
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Apple [:|||:]
    Whatever you're smoking - you should share. Otherwise just delete your FB account, buy your next mobile phone from Target, rent a DVD from Safeway and do not pollute my brain :)
    Jul 29, 2018 0
  • Expedia Igmfs
    FB and Google control what you know and by proxy how you feel. Amazon controls far too much. Netflix should be removed and acronym changed to FBAG... it's like DBag, only with a hint of Russian collusion
    Jul 29, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng onMyWay
      F and G are fundamentally different than A(AA) and N.

      Amazon controls too much?
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Uber / Eng
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    Facebook only controls your emotions if you let it. You can buy stuff from places other than Amazon
    Jul 29, 2018 1
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      Facebook is ubiquitous. Even though I don’t use it anymore, many others do. The emotions I encounter from them are a direct result of them using too much Facebook. It’s kind of like Uber. Many people say delete Uber, but we know Uber is ubiquitous in our daily lives. At least Uber produces a good product which I like using, even though the culture there is crappy
      Jul 29, 2018
  • LinkedIn Waah, waah
    What about the oligarchies like Comcast, NRA, real estate, Wall Street ?? Are you ok with them mojoman ? Or is your tirade only limited to cover your political bias ?
    Jul 29, 2018 1
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      NRA is an advocacy group which I don’t support because I personally support gun control. But they are definitely not an oligarchy. You are right about Wall Street though. Those banks need to be broken up. But they still don’t threaten democracy the way FAANG does. As for Comcast, yes they too are an oligopoly, but they don’t threaten our democracy.
      Jul 29, 2018
  • Gusto Genderer
    Voted yes for the lols
    Jul 29, 2018 0

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