I'm about to start interviewing (shortlisting companies) and I have been looking at compensation for Microsoft and it seems sub par. I'm looking to interview at l63 and the salary estimates look lower than what I'm making currently. I'm making 230K+ currently while Microsoft pays 200K on avg for l63. Are the salary estimates incorrect. What am I missing? I'm hoping to move up to 275K at least.
MS can do 275ish for new hires
Add 50k for you wlb,401k, yearly bonuses
200k salary or total comp? 200k salary for a L63 sounds way out of the norm. (Sounds right for TC)
200k total comp seems low for L63 when the equivalent comp at Amazon would be 250k
Microsoft’s compensation is a joke period.
Amen!! For the amount of shit we have to endure it is.
And I thought Amazon didn't pay well.
What’s your current level? You should ask for L65 if you are SDE3
I am lvl 63. If you are expecting 275k tc annually then you are dreaming. I make 197k total. I am trying to switch but it’s not easy.
I've the most leverage before I join. If 275k is out of reach it might not be worth it for me to interview with Microsoft.
I was recently offered the following as 63 (but I destroyed the loop, had competing offers, and the interviewers loved me): 165k base 400k stock 100k sign It's possible but they have to love you.
Kill yourselves
Nah. I rather earn more $.
Depends on team but 275K+ base at 63 seems impossible.
270k in Seattle for L63 is really high. New hire (L63) here: 151k + 40k/2 + 120k/4 + 0-30% yearly bonus. No negotiation.
Did you have competitive offers though?
Yes I have 3 other offers. I am actually not very good at negotiating. I got numbers from NVD and Oracle BMC after I accepted the oral offer from MS. When I asked HR to match, he said no, because I already accepted the oral offer. I still chose MS though Oracle's initial tc is 30k more per year.
You are ignoring the bonus and the stocks which is very significant in Ms contrary to AMZN
I'm hoping I'm wrong. If they do go 275 or more it would be worth it.
Target do 63 is laughable. Do not bother coming for anything below 66-67. 🍆