Is Two Sigma still a top company for engineers?

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May 4 19 Comments

It's no question that Two Sigma pays engineers as much as Google and Facebook. There have also been a few anecdotes in the past that its culture and general treatment of employees is excellent and quite similar to Google's.

However, Glassdoor seems to tell a different story, especially recently, with reviews like these:
https://www.glassdoor.ca/Reviews/Employee-Review-Two-Sigma-RVW25885087.htm
https://www.glassdoor.ca/Reviews/Employee-Review-Two-Sigma-RVW25260710.htm

Some key points in recent reviews include: the culture being taken over by ex Goldman Sachs employees, WLB becoming worse, cost-cutting, poor management, constant reorgs, and lot's of politics.

Two Sigma's overall Glassdoor rating is also a 3.6 which seems low compared to other highly desired companies such as Google (4.4), Facebook (4.3), LinkedIn (4.3), Jane Street (4.6). In fact, even Amazon has a slightly higher rating (3.8).

Now obviously Glassdoor isn't always accurate and is subject to selection bias, but it can help provide a general idea of a company.

For those who have direct/indirect experience with Two Sigma, what do you think, is it still a top company for engineers?

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  • Facebook Hodinkee
    Who told you 2sigma pays equally to FB?
    May 4 7
    • Facebook qWk295lz
      OP
      A few TS employees on Blind have mentioned that their pay roughly matches G/FB at equivalent levels
      May 4
    • Facebook / Eng ijyh
      Comparable upto L5. At L6+, 2S is no match for FB/G
      May 5
    • No match as in 2s pays less or more after those levels? And do you have numbers to back it up?
      May 5
    • Facebook / Eng ijyh
      F/G pays much more at L6+ than 2S. Remember at 2S, you are working as SWE not a Quant
      May 5
    • Facebook / Eng @wazza
      Can confirm that 2S is not a good place if you are at E6+. Very few opportunities and expectations to get into management at that point. Its only good if you are early in your career E3-E4 and stay there for a few years for the comp and early experience. Then you run :)
      May 5
    • Facebook qWk295lz
      OP
      Interesting, didn't know their TC was weaker after L6. Any thoughts about things like culture and WLB? There's a few comments on Blind from TS employees saying it's similar to Google but would be good to have more data
      May 5
    • What i heard is around 9 hours of work including lunch with very little wfh.
      May 5
  • Google Aphrodite
    From ex-Two Sigma employee: Too easily siloed into niche with little transferability and collaboration due to fear of spreading information

    Also, selection bias stems from humans, who are present at every company - it's not like Google and Jane Street have higher ratings because they don't have to face selection bias.
    May 4 4
    • Susquehanna International / Eng Kristaps11
      Surprised to hear siloing of teams is that prominent at TS. Thought they’d be one of the better firms in that regard due to their open source exposure and contributions. That said they’re getting so big in headcount I guess it was inevitable.
      May 4
    • Google Aphrodite
      Indeed, I've heard D.E. Shaw and Voleon are better in this regard. Rentec is even more extreme than 2S.
      May 4
    • Susquehanna International / Eng Kristaps11
      Unfortunately I missed out on an offer but HRT gave me super strong vibes for culture. Everything from the interview process to the fact that their quants participate in code reviews definitely made them stand out in the industry for me.
      May 4
    • Facebook qWk295lz
      OP
      I heard rumors that DE Shaw was less tech focused than TS, but don't have much to back that up.

      Fwiw DE Shaw has a 4.4 on Glassdoor
      May 4
  • Google / Eng
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    How's Jane Street better?
    May 4 1
    • Jane Street Capital fundfj
      None of the points OP cited from Glassdoor sound familiar to me.
      May 5
  • Two Sigma MkRe68
    It's just another big company now but still one of the better ones to be at.

    As for Glassdoor reviews, I feel like Amazon HR or recruiting is playing a role in inflating the ratings. I remember their numbers being much lower in the past, but I doubt they improved the average employee experience much in the past few years. Ironically, amazon.com is also full of fake reviews, yet many people take them very seriously.
    May 4 1
    • Facebook qWk295lz
      OP
      "big company" could mean different things. Google, Amazon, IBM, Goldman Sachs are all big companies but quite different.

      Amazon could very well be faking their ratings, but what about Google, FB, and the others with stellar ratings? Two Sigma recruiting can't be the only one with integrity.
      May 4
  • Microsoft jesus-
    Was it ever? (Not being a jerk. I am genuinely curious. I could be just not knew that so far)
    May 4 1
    • Facebook qWk295lz
      OP
      A few anecdotes on Blind have implied it and you sometimes hear about guys from G and FB who move there so it was a possibility. In terms of pure TC they are, but this thread is more about the whole package including culture.

      We could use more data points, that's what this thread is trying to do
      May 4

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