Is a transition to management considered a promotion at Amazon?

Netflix / Eng DafuqDude
Oct 16, 2018 16 Comments

Looking at levels.fyi, an L6 engineer at Amazon compares to an E5 at Facebook.

However, for the management route, an L6 SDM compares to M1 at Facebook. At Facebook M1 and E6 are comparable. What’s wrong here?

Using Facebook as a example. Same holds true when you use Google too

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TOP 16 Comments
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    Amazon L6 SDM maps to fb M0, not M1.
    Oct 16, 2018 2
    • Netflix / Eng DafuqDude
      OP
      So then, l7 to M1 and l8 to m2. Is L8 considered director title?
      Oct 16, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Yes, amazon L8 is director and so would map to fb D1/D2. Amazon L7 is also a wide band mapping to fb M1 and M2.
      Oct 16, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng
    Ms67897

    Microsoft Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    Ms67897more
    I thought that managers are paid slightly less than SDEs at the same level. Isn't it? Or is it only that PMs are paid less.

    Talking about industry, not Microsoft specifically.
    Oct 16, 2018 3
    • Google zusammen
      Managers at Amazon get paid more than engineers at L6 and L7 level.
      Oct 16, 2018
    • Indeed / Eng nulll
      For most companies it's same.
      Oct 17, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng DemiLovato
      That's not exactly true. Top of band for L6 SDM is slightly higher than top of band for L6 SDE.

      L7 Principal SDE top of band is higher than L7 Sr. SDM.
      Oct 20, 2018
  • Google / Eng
    Shaktiman’

    Google Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    Shaktiman’more
    Managers at the same level are paid slightly more, but less than next eng level.
    Oct 16, 2018 0
  • Visa 🧐🤫q
    What’s the TC for L6 at Amazon?
    Oct 16, 2018 1
    • Amazon im42
      I hear it starts at and 270 and goes up to something like 380.
      Oct 16, 2018
  • Amazon Guxw58
    No
    Oct 16, 2018 0
  • Amazon RBMY63
    Nooope.
    Oct 16, 2018 0
  • Amazon im42
    No it's not, but TC is slightly higher and L6 SDEs report to L6 SDMs.
    Oct 16, 2018 1
    • Google zusammen
      I know someone who was a L6 SDM at Amazon joined Google as T6 TLM.
      Oct 16, 2018
  • Google zusammen
    The scope of L6 managers at Amazon is almost same as that of T6 TLMs at Google.
    Oct 16, 2018 0
  • Amazon 🕊️Peace
    No
    Oct 16, 2018 0

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