Is it easier for women to get a job as compared to men at FAAMG?
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- Apple ST8izGr8moreI’ve seen it first hand at Apple. Where we automatically rejected male candidates and only interviewed female candidates and extended an offer to those who were less than stellar. I expressed my unhappiness to the hiring manager but he insisted that this was being pushed by upper management😡.
- If you Apple is going out of their way to hire women, why do it this way "pushed by upper management" to hire "less than stellar" candidates, instead of hiring top quality women?
This doesn't make any sense.
By lowering the standard, it gives the impression that there aren't qualified candidates that fit the requirements.
That impression is a bigger disservice to everyone.Jun 11 2
- 🤔@cWpi47, we are hired as engineers to solve problems. This one doesn't seem that hard, but somehow you reached the conclusion of hiring few 'to no women'.
Over the years, the gap increases, so it is important from a foundational level, how well is intern and new grad recruitment?
Top quality is specific for each level. Then from a growing and developing existing employees into higher roles. None of this requires lowering a hiring bar, but if women perceive a company as a dead end for growth, they may select a different company.
- @Bill Why do you assume we only hire new grad? Why do you assume one will spend his/her carreer in the same company?
There is no such thing as perceiving a company as a dead end, you no longer join a company thinking you'll stay there until you retire. You join a company, stay few years and leave for another one.
You have less women in STEM than men, therefore less "top quality" women available. (Let's assume there is the same proportion of "top quality" individuals in both group, unless you're ready to claim that women are better at CS than men.)
As a consequence, if you target such women, you'll end up with less candidate in the pipeline. The only way to increase the number of women candidates (without increasing the number of new grads) is to lower the entry level for women and leave the men's one unchanged.
Last but not least:
"We are hired as engineer" What makes you think I'm an engineer?Jun 12 3
- Honestly, it's amazing seeing the same people pop up to insist that the hiring bar is lower. Despite them not being women or in positions to hire. Ignore them.
- You're right, looking around my eng office, just so many women. The truth. So evident. Give me a break. The people I've found most convinced that women get easier interviews are those who aren't very good at their jobs and can't deal with the added competition. Go lc or something.Jun 26 4
- Intuit / Eng disrespectThat too if a woman looks remotely decent... Her hiring chances go up tenfold
- Here the thing at Google (my precious place). They hire a bunch of women contractors, they give full time women partly-fake direct reportees. That’s how they can claim they have a lot of women and women managers. It’s easy to find a contract job as a woman. It’s super hard to find FTE job, especially of non engineering type (PM, PR, etc).
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