Is diversity hire a thing?

Microsoft / Eng xdxdxdx
Jun 11 29 Comments

Is it easier for women to get a job as compared to men at FAAMG?

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  • Apple
    ST8izGr8

    Apple

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    ST8izGr8more
    I’ve seen it first hand at Apple. Where we automatically rejected male candidates and only interviewed female candidates and extended an offer to those who were less than stellar. I expressed my unhappiness to the hiring manager but he insisted that this was being pushed by upper management😡.
    Jun 11 7
    • Microsoft / Eng xdxdxdx
      OP
      Isn't this against equal opportunity employer's definition? I'm assuming Apple is equal opportunity employer.
      Jun 11
    • Nvidia cWpi47
      That's what happens when you give HR bonus based on how many women they hired.
      Jun 11
    • Amazon Bill.
      If you Apple is going out of their way to hire women, why do it this way "pushed by upper management" to hire "less than stellar" candidates, instead of hiring top quality women?

      This doesn't make any sense.
      By lowering the standard, it gives the impression that there aren't qualified candidates that fit the requirements.
      That impression is a bigger disservice to everyone.
      Jun 11
    • Nvidia cWpi47
      Because it's much more difficult to find "top quality women" than it is for male, therefore you will hire few to no women.
      Jun 11
    • Amazon Bill.
      🤔@cWpi47, we are hired as engineers to solve problems. This one doesn't seem that hard, but somehow you reached the conclusion of hiring few 'to no women'.

      Over the years, the gap increases, so it is important from a foundational level, how well is intern and new grad recruitment?
      Top quality is specific for each level. Then from a growing and developing existing employees into higher roles. None of this requires lowering a hiring bar, but if women perceive a company as a dead end for growth, they may select a different company.
      Jun 11
    • Nvidia cWpi47
      @Bill Why do you assume we only hire new grad? Why do you assume one will spend his/her carreer in the same company?
      There is no such thing as perceiving a company as a dead end, you no longer join a company thinking you'll stay there until you retire. You join a company, stay few years and leave for another one.

      You have less women in STEM than men, therefore less "top quality" women available. (Let's assume there is the same proportion of "top quality" individuals in both group, unless you're ready to claim that women are better at CS than men.)
      As a consequence, if you target such women, you'll end up with less candidate in the pipeline. The only way to increase the number of women candidates (without increasing the number of new grads) is to lower the entry level for women and leave the men's one unchanged.
      Last but not least:
      "We are hired as engineer" What makes you think I'm an engineer?
      Jun 12
    • Amazon Bill.
      Didn't assume only new grads. I just found it hard to believe you concluded with hiring no women. Even going proportionally, that seems skewed.
      Jun 12
  • SAP makes random executive positions to make it seem like there are more women executives. We had a “chief learning officer” for a long time. Nobody knew what she did.
    Jun 11 0
  • Intuit / Eng disrespect
    That too if a woman looks remotely decent... Her hiring chances go up tenfold
    Jun 11 1
  • Oath Atinlay2
    🍿
    Jun 11 0
  • Apple inaq
    Happens all the time at shitter, ops sorry i meant twitter.
    Jun 11 0
  • Salesforce mxj112
    What the fuck
    Jun 11 0
  • Visa EffOffBoy
    depends on the company¿
    Jun 11 4
    • Microsoft / Eng xdxdxdx
      OP
      Even among FAAMG? Care to elaborate?
      Jun 11
    • Google ok ?
      oh, FAAMG wasn’t a typo 🥴
      Jun 11
    • Microsoft / Eng xdxdxdx
      OP
      Nah, I'm more curious about Microsoft than Netflix.
      Jun 11
    • Visa EffOffBoy
      i don't know what management at all FAAMNG wants I would just imagine some are more keen on politics than others
      Jun 11
  • Tesla YqWB61
    Here the thing at Google (my precious place). They hire a bunch of women contractors, they give full time women partly-fake direct reportees. That’s how they can claim they have a lot of women and women managers. It’s easy to find a contract job as a woman. It’s super hard to find FTE job, especially of non engineering type (PM, PR, etc).
    Jun 11 2
    • Amazon Bill.
      Contractors don't count as employees, by definition.
      Jun 11
    • Tesla YqWB61
      There are many kinds of contractors. Some do. Also, full time employees with a bunch of contractors are now managers, who don’t know how to manage people. This sucks.
      6d
  • Amazon / Eng no you
    Easier to get an interview; not to get hired.
    Jun 12 0
  • Netflix / Eng predatious
    Every team at Netflix tries to get at least 1-2 women to be hip. The bar is super low, women are good for optics as far as management concern is
    4d 0
  • Microsoft / Eng
    lolmaxxx

    Microsoft Eng

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    Starbucks, Deloitte
    lolmaxxxmore
    Definitely Amazon , Microsoft, Google I have observed it every where
    Jun 11 0
  • Hiring bar for women is higher at Uber.
    7d 2
    • Microsoft / Eng notestingp
      How does that make sense? What's the reasoning?
      7d
    • Netflix / Eng predatious
      Hahaha
      4d
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    • Microsoft / Eng xdxdxdx
      OP
      In terms of getting interviews or qualifying?
      Jun 12

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