Is it a good time to join Uber over Google ?

Facebook baklulu
May 15 51 Comments

Both are for Senior SWE

Here’s the Uber offer breakdown:
191.4 base, 60k joining bonus, 715k RSUs, 15% annual bonus

Here’s the Google offer:
185k base, 55k joining bonus, 660k RSUs, 15% annual bonus

Google:
+ good brand
+ pretty stable
- no comp/career growth
+ good wlb

Uber
+ better comp/career growth
- bit risky
+ has upside as well
= not sure how the wlb is

Things I am looking for:
Good career growth and good wlb

I have 6 yoe. My current TC is around 360K. Wondering if it’s worth switching.

Both are for Seattle

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  • Uber m-g-u
    Mostly of us won’t see google valuation double in our life, but Uber is likely.
    May 153
    • Google Resumé
      You're implying we have less than 5-10 years remaining lifespan?
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Ha ha.. I think it’s not a bad idea to join Google now and then jump ship to Uber in a couple of years if that truly does well.

      What you think @Resume ?
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      That sounds like the optimal win-win strategy.
      May 15
  • Google Resumé
    Comp/career growth at Google and wlb at Uber are underestimated in the OP.
    May 1512
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      But L5 to L6 is almost impossible at Google right ?
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      It's not. The relative scarcity of L6+ is due to lack of effort and relative youth of the workforce. One ought to consider that most L5s at Google are coasters in their early 30s.
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      I see, which one you recommend joining ?
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      Returning to the original point, L6+ is primarily leadership based. Which team do you like more?
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      I like both the teams equally, also it’s hard to gauge just by talking to the managers . I won’t know the reality until I join them.

      I am tired of the bad wlb at FB and really need good WLB which seems like both of them have.

      The compelling reason behind Google is that the office is in Kirkland and I can have a pretty quick commute. I prefer east side over Seattle downtown.
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      The current situation at Uber would point toward the majority vote in the polls as a safer bet for stable wlb and career. There are only a couple of orgs at Google that will work you hard.
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      What are those bad wlb orgs in Google ?

      I am exploring a few teams within GCP in Kirkland
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      Uh oh, it looks like you hit the target (although I am not sure whether KRK is much different from SVL office).
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Lol what you mean? GCP has bad wlb ?

      How is the BigQuery team within GCP ?
      May 15
    • Google Resumé
      I don't work in Cloud (only by hearsay/polls), so idk the specific teams that well. Would advise talking with other members of the team. BigQuery is promising though.
      May 15
  • New / Engblindor
    What makes you think there is no comp/ career growth at G?
    May 150
  • Google LyLs67
    Why leave Facebook?
    May 156
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Bad WLB, work no longer interesting
      May 15
    • Google LyLs67
      I'm that case definitely Google. Wlb v good and your can choose from a wide range of projects
      May 16
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      How easy is it to switch teams at Google ?
      May 16
    • Google LyLs67
      Very easy
      May 16
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Thanks man. How is WLB of GCP teams in Kirkland ? Thinking of joining the BigQuery team
      May 16
    • Google LyLs67
      Don't know I work in ads. But I can't imagine it being v bad
      May 17
  • Facebook / Engimt
    Another FBer fallen due to our pathetic WLB. Pretty soon FB will have to pay 50% more to attract top Senior talents
    May 155
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      You mean WLB ? Do we even have that let alone that being pathetic 😂
      May 15
    • Facebook / Engimt
      Lol. I have been on 3 Teams and they all suffer poor wlb. Same shit in most fb teams.
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      How is your wlb bro ? Staying for long or jumping ship as well ?
      May 15
    • Facebook / Engimt
      Pretty bad. Plan to leave by end of this year.
      May 15
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Which org and location ? I am in data infra in MPK
      May 15
  • Google WarrenBuff
    Uber. It's no longer paper money.
    May 152
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      But it’s stocks are more risky right ?
      May 15
    • Google WarrenBuff
      Better potential long term. It's 65-70 billion dollar company.

      Google is already 700+.
      May 15
  • Microsoft no.problem
    Definitely Google.
    May 151
  • Uber! Are they both L5?
    May 151
  • Google 🍊 has
    Optimize for whether you want to live in SF v South Bay imo
    May 151
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Both are in Seattle area. So it’s more like Kirkland Vs Seattle downtown
      May 15
  • Facebook / Engyby
    Insane offers for 6 YOE
    7d1
    • Facebook semafore
      Says another FB guy 😂

      It’s not uncommon bro (OP here) . I got similar numbers from Pinterest and Twitter as well

      Get out of the FB bubble and interview. The bad wlb there ain’t worth it
      7d
  • MathWorks timX
    Can you not negotiate Google comp since you have a competing offer from Uber ? One way to look at it is, would you have chosen Google if they had offered what Uber is offering
    May 151
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Google isn’t negotiating anymore
      May 15
  • Citrix Systems / Engpeda
    Google ffs
    May 151
    • Facebook baklulu
      OP
      Why ? You seem to be heavily biased by the brand name
      May 15
  • New / ITBcDM68
    @op what questions did they ask you in design rounds?
    3d0
  • Uber l5c
    Uber Seattle is expanding and has a wide range of products. Curious how many RSUs did you get from your offer?
    7d0
  • Uber kshwjfjf
    Uber is fun. Google is 💤. Stakes are low at Google.
    May 150
  • Facebook / Engimt
    Offers are incredible. Didn't realize Google goes over 600k rsu in Seattle
    May 150
  • Amazon sidhehsks
    Shoot, I'd take Google just so I could be in Kirkland instead of Seattle.

    But since Uber's IPO tanked, you have a chance to make some real dough there if they rebound. I vote for Uber.
    May 150

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