Is it easier for women to get into tech

SAP Blague
Apr 19 45 Comments

woman x and guy y with exact same creds apply to a hypothetical tech giant, let’s say Booble. Will x have an advantage given everything else is the same and both are above average candidates.

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  • Google / Mgmt Jolio
    No. It’s also a lot harder for someone who identifies as female to succeed once they get into said company.

    It’s on us men to make it better.
    Apr 19 11
    • Google / Mgmt Jolio
      Meritocracy is a place we might eventually reach once we enable everyone to actually compete on a level playing field. We didn't end up with far fewer women and people of color in tech by accident, or because of any sort of variation in "inherent traits.” We got here because for centuries, women and people of color were systematically excluded from the educational and professional opportunities needed to build careers in tech (among other fields).

      You want some 10x ideas?

      1) Google’s workforce, and board, proportionately represent our global community of users.

      2) Google develops a new generation of black, brown, and female millionaires by more equitably providing access to life-trajectory-changing careers. This, in turn, creates sustainable pathways to equity in education, healthcare, and housing, which are ultimately all based on access to capital.

      I could go on. We have a lot to offer the world beyond just code and cloud — and we’ll also do better at both of those things, and create a lot more value for our shareholders along the way, if we include everyone in the effort.
      Apr 20
    • Google must-
      Re 1. Google tried to create a proportional representation for the AI ethics board. But SJWs cried bloody murder.

      But, before we even start a discussion, you need to prove that your proposal is going to have 10x impact on business.
      Apr 20
    • Google Mr. Glass
      Jolio is a brainwashed leftist. He isn’t open to learning or exploring the truth without ideological bias. It’s scary such people are in charge of our consumer data. We need regulation to get leftists out of Google or balance the proportion of political leanings within the company .
      Apr 20
    • > someone who identifies as female
      I want off this ride
      Apr 20
    • IBM olkh
      Mr.Glass, Jolio just explained to you why meritocracy won't work right now and that is due to our past. if you can deny that our past clearly excluded others then there is clearly no hope for you. You imbeciles tout so much about meritocracy yet you and your buddies are the first ones lining up to give referrals to your friends switching between the FANG . You hypocrites will die in vain
      Apr 24
  • Yelp fixksbf
    probably because women get paid less for doing the same work
    Apr 19 9
    • Google Mr. Glass
      And it’s not solely due to sexism, women choose careers differently than men. @fixksbf brainwashed turd.
      Apr 20
    • Yelp fixksbf
      i have a ton of data to back my statement up. oh and also, their likelihood of getting promoted to exec level is very low.
      Apr 21
    • Microsoft
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      Yes and there are actual reasons for that
      Apr 21
    • ON Semiconductor OoooOOOoooO
      yeah, I'd heard many time women ways worse on TC negotiation. They often accept whatever they are being offered. Then they figure out how much their peers making (after heavy negotiation) and start to complain
      Apr 21
    • Google Mr. Glass
      ^ and then play victims of sexism.
      Apr 22
  • Intel babubhatt
    Booble? Really?
    Apr 19 5
    • SAP Blague
      OP
      I forgot the name of search engine company which makes billions, I think it was Booble or something
      Apr 19
    • SAP Blague
      OP
      Yep! That’s it. Jeeves, Booble they all sound the same you know hehe
      Apr 19
    • Intel babubhatt
      Lol askjeeves.com was always the best
      Apr 19
    • Amazon / Eng KHCr70
      My God I still remember a grade 4 class I had where the librarian taught us how to use askjeeves.

      I thought the whole thing was rubbish. Books were easier
      Apr 19
    • Nvidia / Eng Mr.XoXo
      At least say back rub!
      Apr 20
  • New yoyoba
    I don't think there should be any preference given to anyone except after merit is established and only to normalize. Let me explain. If 10% of a certain class graduates with CS, it is perfectly fair to have the workforce reflect that. If workforce has less than 10% of that class, then that class can be preferred after merit is established and two candidates are about the same. That's the only fair thing. The normal argument that I hear is about traditionally disadvantaged classes but I think the way to fix it is to ensure the graduation rates improve instead of artificially leveling downstream processes.

    Go ahead...convince me that I'm wrong.
    Apr 19 2
    • Equifax / Eng
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      You got no likes so far since people don't like truth in general.
      Apr 19
    • SAP quo vad
      "..I think the way to fix it is to ensure the graduation rates improve instead of artificially leveling downstream processes."

      True, but improving graduation rates by itself shouldn't be the end of our efforts. Systemic unfairness continue even AFTER women are hired. Opportunity needs to be democratized even during employment. This is not to say women shouldn't reach out or be responsible (at least to a large extent) for their career paths, but it ALSO means that systemic biases that exist against women and minorities should be weeded out.
      Apr 20
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    • VMware yogiman
      Fucking pervert
      Apr 19
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      Do you get the insane nature and stupid terminology of this post? Or are you an angry looser of a feminist
      Apr 19
    • VMware yogiman
      Right, do your bit to make it even more insane and stupid.
      Apr 19
    • Nvidia / Eng Mr.XoXo
      Do moobs count?
      Apr 20
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      Yes moobs count.
      Apr 20
  • Amazon qhUc80
    All data shows the opposite to be true. Given two equal resumes, managers choose the male every time.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/109/41/16474?etoc=
    Apr 21 2
    • SAP Blague
      OP
      Great article! This is indeed very true for academics where men dominate but I was talking mostly for engineering where there are little unspoken rules which give edge to females mainly to attempt to balance the disproportionate ratio of males and females in organization. This can also be applied to african american community and hispanic community which are one of the biggest minorities in the US but very underrepresented in tech
      Apr 21
    • Blague, it would be ideal to find studies to show this. Thru decades racial hiring bias is found by repeatable research for example. Gender bias can be measured in the same way. Studies I took part in in College decades ago involved repeatable study designs where 2 applicants with the same credentials applied to many jobs and statistically the biases were clear. Relying on more recent studies is a good way to navigate your question I think.
      Apr 25
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  • Microsoft / Eng 6ftUnder
    That third option physically hurts my eyes
    Apr 19 0
  • Bloomberg / Eng THNK<GO>
    it depends on the company.
    If there is a pressure to close gender gap, they might hire the women over men.
    Even though this sounds less meritorious, there is a lot of added value with different perceptions.
    Apr 20 0
  • Apple / Eng Sarcasmist
    Mauvaise Blague...
    Apr 19 1
    • SAP Blague
      OP
      Seulement le pire
      Apr 20