Is it normal for a company to ask you to track every minute of your day?

Sep 16 30 Comments

Is it normal for a company to ask you to track every minute of your day in an application (Salesforce, adp, TargetProcess, etc)

Friend mention they are required to account for every minute of their day in their tool and it must add up to 8hrs or it is assumed they are slacking off. This is a tech company non developer full time salary position, but even developers have to do it also but that is a little bit easier since they don't switch projects as much.

Still seems excessive, over bearing and very dated micromanagement style of management.

Just wanted to see how many companies out there do this and is it common? The only job I had that required a punch clock was a retail part time job.

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TOP 30 Comments
  • Apple winepix
    Lmao half of blind would be laid off if forced to use this tool
    Sep 16 4
    • Goldman Sachs / Project not Lloyd
      god forbid they allow remote work.
      Sep 16
    • Apple winepix
      Why is that bad?
      Sep 16
    • Goldman Sachs / Project not Lloyd
      distrust around remote work at a place like that. that would be uncomfortable
      Sep 16
    • OP
      Yup, appearently they frown upto working remotely also even though they are a tech company and have all the tools to allow it.

      Told him to keep looking. Doesn't sound like a long term place you wanna work.
      Sep 16
  • Atlassian d@t_person
    This sounds terrible. First warning flag to GTFO
    Sep 16 4
    • OP
      I agree. I told them it sounded like a sweatshop and not a good sign.
      Sep 16
    • Goldman Sachs / Project not Lloyd
      there had to have been more signs beforehand. this doesn’t just happen.
      Sep 16
    • OP
      It is company wide appearently. Everyone has to log their time.

      Sounds like a huge waste of time for very little data that probably isn't accurate anyways.
      Sep 16
    • Atlassian d@t_person
      Just lie until u get better job. Get out ASAP. That can’t be a real tech company if they are that anal.
      Sep 16
  • Northrop Grumman karoshi_
    Government contracts require all time tracking to the tenth of an hour (6 minute increments). We are regularly audited internally and 3rd party and timecard lying is probably the quickest way to get fired
    Sep 16 2
    • Goldman Sachs / Project not Lloyd
      what’s the second quickest way?
      Sep 16
    • Northrop Grumman karoshi_
      Hard to say what’s #2. Seems like other Ethics violations (fraud wast abuse harassment) or Classified security violations. Both will get the boot pretty quick.
      Sep 16
  • Airbnb poout
    This sounds hellish
    Sep 16 0
  • Goldman Sachs / Project not Lloyd
    only in call centers or production lines.
    Sep 16 0
  • Southwest Airlines / IT
    CboR40

    Southwest Airlines IT

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    Microsoft
    CboR40more
    Had to do this when I worked at Microsoft. I was a support engineer so you had to track time on each case so you could bill the customer for each minute you spent helping them solve their problems. The goal was to have at least 6 billable hours per day. I think lots of professional services are run the same way.
    Sep 16 1
    • Optum / IT
      isearching

      Optum IT

      BIO
      An experienced software professional with 10+ years of experience in tech. Having widespread experience across technologies and passionate for tech.
      isearchingmore
      This makes sense for the support engineer roles.
      Sep 16
  • Scientific Technologies Corporat / IT psilocybic
    For only consultants/support, understandable. if their only client is the US fedgov, doing this company-wide is begrudgingly understandable, but still stupid and probably should be avoidable for non-project staff. Otherwise...is this company in 1990 Soviet Union?
    Sep 20 0
  • Cisco / Sales /-\
    Some companies do this so they can bill their customers by the hours worked on a given project. Hours you work on other tools might count as work but might not be billable. I worked in a place like this in the past and i hated it (for other reasons too). Funnily enough it also had to add up to 8 hours even though I sometimes worked overtime...
    Maybe you can just do this:
    Define 3 or 4 patterns of work that more or less reflect the amount of time you spend on each thing. Then just fill out those patterns (just be mindful if its stuff that will be used for billing customers).
    Sep 17 0
  • priceline.com / IT top_phodu
    It's lame, nonsensical. Does not work with millennials... GTFO...
    Sep 16 0
  • HP / IT
    O(2^n)

    HP IT

    BIO
    lover of exponential time solutions😘😘
    O(2^n)more
    Had a similar setup. Used to fill for the whole month on the last day with fake data.
    Sep 16 0
  • Box Kindne
    Yeah that sounds totally normal🙄
    Sep 16 0
  • New / IT
    echosummet

    New IT

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    VCP-DCV, CCNA, AWS Solution Architect
    echosummetmore
    No
    Oct 5 0
  • New / IT LoUe76
    Doesn’t sounds strategic as more time is spent on the waste vs actual value being added.
    Sep 17 0
  • New / HR XFQY67
    This isn't normal, especially for salary. Seems to be a non-trusting culture. Its doubtful you'll be able to change this aspect of the job, especially if everyone is required to do this.
    Sep 17 0
  • Avanade / IT
    IfMI01

    Avanade IT

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    Avanade
    BIO
    Been working at Avanade since 2015. Wut wut.
    IfMI01more
    Pretty much the standard when you work in client services. This goes for lawyers, financial analysts, IT consultants..
    Sep 17 0
  • Optum / IT
    isearching

    Optum IT

    BIO
    An experienced software professional with 10+ years of experience in tech. Having widespread experience across technologies and passionate for tech.
    isearchingmore
    True. I would add that anyone who is a creative soul and true engineering is anyway a craftsmanship, will not be able to sustain this job.
    Sep 16 0
  • Optum / IT
    isearching

    Optum IT

    BIO
    An experienced software professional with 10+ years of experience in tech. Having widespread experience across technologies and passionate for tech.
    isearchingmore
    This is shit. I haven't seen any company that does this for tech. May be a bunch of call center executive are running the top show and no nothing about tech. I would get out of that company and promote the same on web.
    Sep 16 0
  • Bank of America / Product Quacky
    Adding up to 8 hours is weird. They should have a utilization target closer to 70-80%
    Sep 16 0
  • New / Eng XRmf10
    Quit the job once you find a better one.
    Sep 16 0