Is it safe to join OCI right now

Goldman Sachs pakalu
Aug 7 85 Comments

I have an offer from OCI with a TC of $190k in Seattle.I was wondering if it would be a wise decision to join it right now? How rampant are layoffs? Are layoffs individual performance dependent or is affected by things outside your grasp? Has there been any recent layoffs?

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  • Oracle zXd43f
    The radiation level is still very bad. 15000 rontgen.
    Aug 7 1
    • New / Data
      ISXM10

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      The instrument only detected 3 Roentgen
      Aug 7
  • Oracle k-9
    It’s safe to avoid it if you’re on visa.
    Aug 7 2
    • Oracle ADuga
      Absolutely avoid if you are on visa
      Aug 7
    • Oracle k-9
      Correct.
      Aug 7
  • Oracle bajra
    My recommendation is stay away if you are on a visa. Things are in flux. Also the age of good offers are over. So the question is low offers for higher risks.
    Aug 10 7
    • Oracle bajra
      Amz is delusional or not on visa
      Aug 10
    • Amazon
      Amz

      Amazon

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      Yo-yo Chen
      Amzmore
      What? Dude there are way too many jobs out there for devs unless you are shitty one to be not able to crack a single interview
      Aug 10
    • Hundreds of Amazon folks are always on the job market due to either PIP or shitty WLB. Making it more competitive for others to land a job in a short time.
      Aug 10
    • Amazon
      Amz

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      Yo-yo Chen
      Amzmore
      That sucks for you if you feel piped folks from Amazon have higher bar than you.
      Aug 11
    • Oracle snirf
      Also.. USCIS is handing out a lot more RFEs these days. So even if someone can find a job in 60 days .. RFEs make it very difficult to be stress free and get on with your life. The current RFE percentage is 40-60% based on various sources
      Aug 12
  • Oracle ADuga
    Layoffs were in OCI as well. Last one was in March, had nothing to do with performance. They also let go of a bunch of low performers in June/July. There is a rumor the next one is either in September or November. In the March layoffs, they let go of people who joined in January, there was a guy on our team
    Aug 7 5
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      So you can get fired even if you joined recently? Are only certain teams affected? Any idea about streaming team?
      Aug 7
    • Oracle 300ishere
      Streaming is a new and effective team. Multiple other teams depend on streaming service. Can’t predict the future but currently they are well placed.
      Aug 8
    • Oracle / IT
      l00tb0x

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      l00tb0xmore
      Yes, when a team is rif'd. I saw people with a track record of 4 month at Oracle being fired.
      Aug 9
    • Oracle Djs83
      Streaming dev team is great. Their PM sucks.
      Aug 11
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      @Djs83 , do you mind if I ping you for more info?
      Aug 11
  • Oracle dkgdcb
    Perfectly safe. Layoffs were in oci-c
    Aug 7 5
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Sorry,What is oci-c?
      Aug 7
    • Oracle dkgdcb
      Old cloud for oracle. It was merged into oci and called OCI-classic
      Aug 7
    • Oracle zyxwvu
      @dkgdcb do you know for sure or are you assuming wrt to layoffs in oci-c
      Aug 7
    • Oracle / IT
      l00tb0x

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      Just assumes.
      Aug 9
    • Oracle milf
      Lay-off were OCI C. Safe to join.
      Aug 18
  • Amazon / Eng NewEndaevo
    Let me put it like that: I had a phone call scheduled with a recruiter from OCI today. He did not call. That sums it all
    Aug 7 3
    • Oracle / Eng plou
      You dodged a bullet. Be happy
      Aug 7
    • Amazon CeoExtra
      So you think the recruiter got RIFed?
      Aug 8
    • Oracle
      claylvlviz

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      OCI future is cloudy
      claylvlvizmore
      Dont think that is representative. Recruiting team could just be bad.
      Aug 8
  • Oracle k-9
    @OP so will you accept the OCI offer ? 🤔
    Aug 7 5
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      No clue man. There is just so much negativity around oci. I am not sure whether to even negotiate or not.😀
      Aug 7
    • Oracle k-9
      Good luck !
      Aug 7
    • Oracle zXd43f
      Ignore all those naysayers. I have been at oci for almost five years. Know things inside out.

      People who complain, either those who are outside oci and jealous of our tc or within oci who are low performers. Good people are busy building things. They don’t have time for shit. People who complain, they are too lazy working from home and too frightened cause their gravy train is about to end.
      Aug 7
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      @zXd43f mind if I ping you?
      Aug 7
    • Oracle / Eng plou
      Don't listen to what anyone says here specifically if its one person.

      Lot of attrition and its toxic culture.
      Decide for yourself and be prepared if you get RIFed or don't like the work culture
      Aug 7
  • Oracle k-9
    I also heard that internal hiring process was made slower so that RIFd employee doesn’t get rehire. What a shit company 🙈
    Aug 7 3
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      What is RIFD?
      Aug 7
    • Oracle k-9
      RIF=reduction in force a.k.a layoffs
      Aug 7
    • Oracle Djs83
      Not true
      Aug 11
  • Oracle ADuga
    @op, A lot of people left that team earlier this year. I knew an engineer who was very talented and went to FB. According to him, the environment in the team is not good, very highly political, people are having a hard time getting things done. Following that another engineer also jumped ship. That product doesn’t have sound fundamentals and you will be working on cleanup
    Aug 7 2
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Oh are you talking about streaming team? The manager seemed like a nice guy though.maybe it's just a trap. 😀
      Aug 7
    • Oracle ADuga
      Yes
      Aug 7
  • Oracle eijrbri4j
    surprised by all the No. successful or not oci is not going away for a while and lot of Dev work available
    Aug 11 1
    • Oracle bajra
      Found the hiring manager
      Aug 11
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    claylvlviz

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    OCI future is cloudy
    claylvlvizmore
    Like all gossip the truth is somewhere in the middle. If you are a bottom performer then yea id worry but if you are credible I wouldn’t worry about it.
    Aug 7 0
  • Expedia Group / Eng hnAy18
    Why is your TC so low? I thought OCI pays 300k TC???
    Aug 7 5
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      1.4 years experience
      Aug 8
    • Expedia Group / Eng hnAy18
      Did someone refer you?
      Aug 8
    • Apple d37sk38
      I’ve heard that OCI recently had to start budgeting their hiring / salaries and has resulted in lower starting TC and lower refreshers (though they’ve never been great at refreshers for everyone). Could just be a rumor from one of the many people I know at OCI but I do know a lot of people there coming up on a cliff and looking to leave. Most of them expected it though from when they started there in 2015. No one believed it would be successful but switched anyways because it was a huge salary bump for the time being.
      Aug 8
    • Expedia Group / Eng hnAy18
      Honestly 1.5 yoe that salary is still good. it's not FANG but still...
      At Expedia it would barely be over 120k
      Same with Microsoft maybe 150k
      Aug 8
    • Oracle / Eng plou
      Money is not everything. Don't folks care anymore abt work culture and peace of mind.
      Aug 8
  • Oracle jollyb
    No, more layoffs coming soon. Major restructuring by year end
    Aug 8 3
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Why hire then? 😁. Simply to fire people?
      Aug 8
    • Oracle / Eng plou
      But even after knowing all this if folks are ready to join then question is

      Why join when you will get fired?
      Aug 8
    • Oracle sodoff
      I think they hired too many seniors at high salaries. Now they are opening up the lower levels and will eventually fire the seniors
      Aug 8
  • Microsoft / Eng bhyfxd$)6?
    Simply don't join if you're on visa.
    Aug 8 0
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    Yes
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  • Microsoft / Eng bhyfxd$)6?
    Offer for Senior SDE?
    Aug 8 4
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Senior member of technical staff
      Aug 8
    • Microsoft / Eng bhyfxd$)6?
      190k seems low for Senior. It was around 250k.
      Aug 8
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Don't know. I have 1.4 years experience as of now in US
      Aug 8
    • Goldman Sachs pakalu
      OP
      Are you at oci?
      Aug 8
  • Amazon
    Amz

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    Amzmore
    So why would they RIF in Sept when they are hiring like crazy in August?!
    Aug 7 4
    • Oracle zXd43f
      Because people who are commenting here mostly know shit.
      Aug 7
    • Oracle k-9
      Bcoz its OCI. If idea doesn’t work out, then lay-off. No negotiation.
      Aug 7
    • Oracle zXd43f
      Which company negotiates with employees before laying them off?
      Aug 7
    • Oracle / Eng plou
      Attrition
      Aug 7
  • Oracle / Product scloud333
    Yes, it's safe! Check all the announcements made this week at OOW? 20 more data centers coming in the next 12 months, VMware partnership, stronger relationship with Microsoft, tons of enhancements and new products for SaaS which btw run on OCI, Autonomous Linux which again is on OCI,etc. I am very optimistic about what we have delivered so far and what's lined up for the next months. FYI, I've been with Oracle for 5 years and yes, it's not a perfect company but I recommend Oracle and OCI 100%!!!!
    Sep 18 1
    • Expedia Group / Eng employme
      Refer me please?
      Sep 18
  • Oracle TKvy28
    No, 300+ layoffs to be announced next week
    Aug 8 0
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    Larry’s orders?
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