Misc.May 8, 2018
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Is the lack of strong PM culture at Facebook and Google the driver of almost no innovation relative to Amazon?

Google and Facebook are heavily engineering led with PM having minimal impact. Amazon has a much stronger product manager & customer culture.

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Uber DAmZP3 May 8, 2018

Innovation? Amazon? I don't remember any.

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StinsonB May 8, 2018

Triggered.

Amazon 33mg May 8, 2018

Yup. I wonder if someday Amazon will be more than just an online bookstore.

Google jghyrh May 8, 2018

I think a lot of the innovation comes from Jeff and the values he breeds. During my time at Amazon, and in my experience, for the most part, PMs were a nuisance. To be fair, I was never on a "product" team, so I was usually dealing with too many PMs trying to squeeze their shit through infrastructure bottlenecks that wouldn't scale. It's probably different on a product team, where a PM is liaising with customers and working out priorities and stuff.

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Attaboy May 8, 2018

Startups = product and/or GTM innovation. FAANG are too big and bloated for innovation - more innovation in political empire building and turf wars these days. FAANG are where you go to make money not innovate.

Amazon Hooliganss May 8, 2018

You can throw the N in there, it applies to them as well.

Facebook Jccjkcrn May 11, 2018

Is this a joke? Amazon and innovation. It’s an ecomm player with a terrible voice assistant products. By ecomm, I mean a company that was started by a hedge fund guy that knew how to work Wall Street. No profits for how many years? Lastly, tier low talent. Alexa is a piece of junk. AWS will gets its ass kicked pretty soon - just wait.

Dell miUd57 May 24, 2018

Been waiting for 6 years. Aws is a money making machine. Look up how much revenue that division makes. Talk crap

Uber DAmZP3 May 24, 2018

No AWS is a thing only because Google did not bother sharing their cloud more than 10 years ago. They saw their own cloud as a technical advatage.

Dell miUd57 May 25, 2018

Too late now. Aws is a market leader by miles