Is working at Intel and HP really that bad?

Nutanix AzYA84
Jun 3 27 Comments

Keep reading posts about how horrible it is... is this true guys?

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  • Intel plump
    The software H1B Intel hires are not that sharp but occasionally when a good one gets hired they GTFO to FANG/Nvidia/Apple at the earliest opportunity. H1Bs hired today aren't concerned about Green Cards/if/when they ever get one. They're more concerned about getting paid fairly. There is a GPU compiler team at Intel Santa Clara that lost 50% of its Engineers to FANG in 2 months earlier this year !! 50% !! The software H1Bs remaining at Intel (with the exception of AIPG and compiler dev teams) are desperate like tu_madre says. Compiler Developers hired into Intel (and I would assume HP also) today are still very smart, having graduated from top schools too, and yes - they turned down FANG jobs to work on compilers at Intel. Intel is one of the few companies that will give new grads fresh out of MS with a specialization in compilers a real chance to work on compilers. The problem is that compiler folks get 2 years of experience at Intel then leave to FANG Nvidia or Apple for double the pay, again to work on compilers. The only sharp compiler folks still at Intel are oldies who stick around for the work life balance. Let's face it - compiler work puts most FANG jobs (infrastructure dev) to shame. Money isn't everything.
    Jun 4 0
  • Intel Robswan
    Depends where at intel you end up in, there are really smart people doing really smart shit, but a lot of groups doing a lot of bs as well !
    Jun 3 2
    • Rally Health FuPayMe$$$
      Lots of smart people doing really smart shit at intel and getting paid shit tc. Doesn’t sound very smart to me.
      Jun 3
    • Intel Robswan
      Some people aren’t after money at all they just love the place they’re and very passionate about stuff they do ! Some intel locations except bayarea have good base pay stock grants sucks tbh !
      Jun 3
  • Intel Pointless4
    I like my job at Intel... but as with any large company it’s very team dependent. I get paid well enough, but it’s not the top of the industry.
    Jun 3 0
  • Samsung EternalACT
    Words can barely describe how horrible Intel is.
    Jun 3 0
  • Intel tu_madre
    Intel and HP are H1B haven's if that your thing. But usually H1B dominant companies don't pay very well since we and HP (and eBay, PayPal) scoop up the more desperate ones who can't get into FANG. Cisco and Oracle are probably the best paying for the run of the mill average engineer grunt of these H1B factories aka HOSPICES (HP, Oracle, SAP, Paypal, Intel, Cisco, eBay, SanDisk). These companies are all located in the South Bay, which explains Sunnyvale's Desi demographics. But I don't have to tell you that, Nutanix. Nutanix is one of the better paying Indian companies, from what I heard. You'd be hard pressed to get the same comp from Intel unless you come in at a higher grade.

    If you get come in as a Grade 8 or 9, it maybe OK, as long as you value WLB over FANG type 💰.
    Jun 4 0
  • Pinterest 11233211
    HP does not stand for High Pay or Happy People
    Jun 3 0
  • Intel / Eng Miss-mgmt
    Miss-management inside !
    Jun 5 0
  • Intel JFOr15
    It really depends on the team and org that you land up in. If you are in HW. You will learn a lot and your experience is really valued. If you are in software, then its a hit or miss. But mostly a miss
    Jun 3 1
    • Intel RanchDip
      Software is the red-headed stepchild
      Jun 5
  • Intel goofygrin
    Like others said it really depends on the team you get hired into. I am HW, worked in a great team, had a great manager. Executive management decided to shoot themselves in the foot so my team got dissolved. My manager was advanced enough that he decided to retire.

    Now I work for a team that's in way over their head, crappy management whose only message to us is to "get it done on time". My skip is barely around and certainly doesn't talk to any of the engineers so he only hears the rosy - and completely misleading - picture that he is presented by his underlings. And so on. Don't want to bore you but if you hire on make sure you ask as many questions as you can think of to get the true picture of the team you're interviewing with.
    Jun 9 0
  • HP mVoF42
    Im actively interviewing to get out of hp.. my manager is toxic!
    Jun 7 0
  • Dropbox rsv
    Hardware companies rarely pay well
    Jun 3 0
  • Intel / Eng CoryP
    It depends
    Jun 3 0
  • Microsoft hgjfogfci
    What's horrible about it?
    Jun 3 4
    • Intel / Eng
      Fjgr6Zha

      Intel Eng

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      Broadcom Inc., Motorola Mobility (a Lenovo Company)
      Fjgr6Zhamore
      Little RSU !! (<10k)
      Jun 3
    • Intel b**b swan
      This isn't true. Depends on your grade and performance. Rsus are decent grade 7 and above. However I do agree that the rsus are much much less than what faang folks are reporting on blind.
      Jun 3
    • Intel / Eng Samaritan
      Not decent at all. G7 SSL2 RSU refresher is only 15k.🥜
      Jun 7
    • Intel pakajdj88
      With companies that pay dividends, you don’t want RSUs.
      Jun 10
  • HP / Cust. Srv.
    lsherring

    HP Cust. Srv.

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    Worldwide Tech Connections
    BIO
    37 years in IT. From the desktop to the datacenter, world class service for my customer is my life as well as making others better in life and their job.
    lsherringmore
    HPI is corporate America. They would be better off being private. Yes there are issues, however I have seen much worse at other companies as well as my clients companies. I have seen my own clients yell and scream at each other. There is no perfect company. If yo are looking for nirvana, you need to start your own company.
    Jun 4 2
    • HP bxHM50
      I don’t know what your position is within HPi but I’ll tell you this - my job from being hard as it is, recently got much harder, and the pay got, well the same.
      I have an MVP award for the AMS, and all they gave me was 1000 point on recognition and the statue.
      My previous employer gave us MONEY.
      If you’d like we can talk more about how higher management screws the service over and over and over
      Jun 4
    • HP / Cust. Srv.
      lsherring

      HP Cust. Srv.

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      Worldwide Tech Connections
      BIO
      37 years in IT. From the desktop to the datacenter, world class service for my customer is my life as well as making others better in life and their job.
      lsherringmore
      I agree, delivery is the pooper scooper for sales and everyone else within the organization. However, after doing this for 38 years as an engineer and a leader unfortunately it comes with the territory. It sucks. I bounce between defcon5 and defcon1 depending in what's going on that week. Currenty I'm at defcon2 with a new client and it truly pisses me off that delivery does not get to do a peer review on the sow before the client signs. That part I do not get. I have never seen this occur at any other client. Do the bomb has gone off again and I'm left to deal with the collateral damage. That is a process that needs to be rectified. However the main point of this thread is that corporate America exists for one reason only, to make others rich. Ther is no other reason to be a public company.
      Jun 4
  • Intel jjps1985
    I am HW and i love the Works I do. TC 200k 15 yoe and I am fine, no complain
    Jul 17 0
  • HP / Cust. Srv.
    lsherring

    HP Cust. Srv.

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    Worldwide Tech Connections
    BIO
    37 years in IT. From the desktop to the datacenter, world class service for my customer is my life as well as making others better in life and their job.
    lsherringmore
    HPI is in a much better place than HPE. Many people have fled HPE in order to come to HPI. We are far from perfect but we are innovating and continue to evolve since the split.
    Jun 8 0
  • Intel qQuW15
    Love my team at Intel, my internal customers, and job/work. Most management in my org is terrible. Their only tools to fix things are Reorgs and junior contractor workers in low cost Geo's.
    Jun 8 0
  • I like working for HP but I have a great team and work on fun products. The pay is just ok but the work/life balance is great.
    Jun 7 0