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JP Morgan vs OCI

Amazon didbdisn
Mar 14

Both in engineering, similar comp -- which one would you choose, in terms of career growth and better future opportunities?

Assume both are frontline manager with a small team to begin with.

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  • Bloomberg 🙏umki
    Tc yoe and area of work will help me voting
    Mar 140
  • Lyft npAv15
    TC
    Mar 140
  • New Gabbie
    In banking, any engineer IC at the level of Staff engineer can also become an Exec Director. It’s not the same at OCI.
    Also note that bonuses at banks are discretionary, they cannot be counted upon always
    Mar 148
    • New Gabbie
      To be fair, some Exec Directors at banks also lead teams of many tens of people. It’s important to discuss what kind of ED role is involved
      Mar 14
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      How’s the actual bonus, the realistic one? If said 10K, would be far less than 10k or almost around, in normal cases?
      Mar 14
    • New Gabbie
      Depends on how the bank performs - it could be anything
      Mar 14
    • New Gabbie
      If you are in Cloud , moderate performance of bank will adversely impact your bonus more, as Cloud is not trading , it is operations work. It’s not the bank’s bread and butter
      Mar 14
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      Sounds like the TC would be much lower than I thought, from the bonus part. Is there anyway to have fixed income mentioned in the offer?
      Mar 14
    • New Gabbie
      For first year, you can ask for a guaranteed bonus. That way your TC is assured for first year. If they are desperate for you they will do this
      Mar 14
    • New Gabbie
      If the bank performs well, you will get your bonus , but that’s never sure
      Mar 14
    • Bloomberg 🙏umki
      Tc ?
      Mar 14
  • New Gabbie
    Remember , Cloud job in JPM is not a highly respectable job . You are prioritized after front office , front office technology etc.
    Mar 143
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      What does that mean? Any impact to the projects or people if it is not respected?
      Mar 14
    • New Gabbie
      Impact is that you will feel like third class citizens . All the world will revolve around front office pnl generating divisions
      7d
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      Hah, :-(
      6d
  • Oracle
    1arctod

    Oracle

    PRE
    Amazon, Microsoft, 500 Startups
    1arctodmore
    Every manager from azure or aws is a director in oci. We have tons of them. If you are behind titles you’ll feel bad after coming in.
    Mar 140
  • Chase / Eng
    KGOa50

    ChaseEng

    PRE
    Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs
    KGOa50more
    Where in tech? Can vary greatly.
    Mar 144
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      Cloud
      Mar 14
    • Chase / Eng
      KGOa50

      ChaseEng

      PRE
      Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs
      KGOa50more
      Lol. Wave when you get here if I haven't managed to leave yet.
      Mar 14
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      LOL. Are you in private cloud/infrastructure, or the public cloud team using public cloud vendors?
      Mar 14
    • Chase / Eng
      KGOa50

      ChaseEng

      PRE
      Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs
      KGOa50more
      Am I hiring you? Lol see pm.
      Mar 14
  • Chase wiGg54
    TC & YOE? I can tell you if it's worth it or not based on your TC
    Mar 140
  • Chase blahBumbu
    Agree it’s a scam.
    Mar 141
    • Amazon didbdisn
      OP
      What’s your experience on bonus?
      Mar 14
  • Indeed / Enggdgy57776g
    What team in jpm.trading related?
    Mar 141
  • New Gabbie
    What’s the functional title at the bank ?
    Mar 141
  • Chase wiGg54
    And location?
    Mar 140

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