Job Offers Evaluation

Microsoft way2nm
Apr 5, 2018 12 Comments

This is for a friend - He has 5 years of software development work-ex (with a Masters) and is being offered SDE2 at Microsoft (Redmond) - 130K base, 40 sign on bonus, 160 stocks/4 years. Is this offer reasonable? He has other offers from IB as VP (analytics/machine learning) - offering around 220K (180 base, 40 target bonus) total compensation (NYC location). He definitely favours tech industry, but is the offer from Microsoft worthy? Also can anyone from IB (Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan) comment how would be work compared to a tech industry?

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  • Microsoft wololoooo
    The CoL difference is pretty huge between Redmond and NYC. Housing is a lot more expensive in NYC, taxes much higher, etc. So even if the IB offer is better (after the first year), it's not that much better. I wouldn't take that offer as you're basically a second class citizen in those companies and it's a career killer if he ever wants to go back to tech afterwards.
    Apr 5, 2018 4
    • Microsoft / Eng AmIEwok
      I agree with everything other than the “career killer” comment.
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Microsoft way2nm
      OP
      Why would it be career killer ? To come back to a tech company all you have to do is Leetcode..
      Apr 5, 2018
    • Chase / Eng PjJD70
      Not necessarily a career killer. I’m still being invited to Google/MS/Amazon interviews even though I’m a dev at JPMorgan. People in tech do look down a bit at devs in a bank though. So there may be bias in the hiring. Is it a problem? no. I agree with others that lots of Leetcode practice will suffice.
      Apr 17, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng AmIErlich
      Yeah I was one of those people who looked down on working at banks, but when I mentioned it to a colleague, she politely told me that I was ignorant and wrong. I should probably tell her that I appreciated being corrected...
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Microsoft SexyBit
    SDE2 Vs VP. you do the future growth math.
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • Amazon zzzxxxx
      Everyone is VP in IB
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Google Facebook
    Invite your friend to join Blind and ask those questions directly😉
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • Microsoft way2nm
      OP
      He doesn't have an official work id to register..
      Apr 5, 2018
  • Microsoft Lpsss
    Microsoft working 35-40 hours/week in most teams

    IB works 60 hours at least in most team.
    Apr 5, 2018 1
    • Chase / Eng PjJD70
      I can confirm IB work hours are pretty extreme in most cases. Definitely not worth it. Everyone is a VP in IB. Take the SDE2 offer, there’s much more career growth at Microsoft.
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Veritas / Eng
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    Alliance12more
    Did your friend join Goldman then? I have the similar question about work and compensation (bonuses especially).
    Aug 2, 2018 0