Job vs. Graduate school

Sep 12, 2017 34 Comments

I have finished my internship in NYC this Summer and got a return offer as a software engineer. I was told I can apply to teams that are open next year when I graduate.

But I am really interested in the Computer Vision field (ex. Tesla, Uber, Lyft...) Those companies tend to set the minimum requirement of a M.S. degree or higher. So I am considering graduate school. My job offer lasts until mid Nov. when I didnt apply for schools yet.

As an international student I have to consider visa status too. So trying to weigh my choices. Is it worth pursuing a higher degree while working(GRE)? Or better to go right out of school?
Just hoping I don't get rejected from schools after rejecting my offer.

I dont want to be a dick and reject the offer after I get into a good school early next year.

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  • HPE / Sales
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    Sophos
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    Another option, one I'm considering myself, is to work full-time and pursue an online masters program (I'm going for an MBA). It would be a challenge and I am not sure how it would effect visas. It would look good to recruiters that you're working so hard.
    Sep 12, 2017 6
    • HPE / Sales
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      Sophos
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      If you apply to an accredited, reputable university's online program there's no reason for any firm to not consider the candidate. Also, there's no reason to state this program was online for something such as an MBA on a resume. Once you're in a a certain caliber of school (I.e. Not the university of Phoenix or some shady for-profit school) it doesn't matter. For a firm to not consider a candidate because of their masters degree is pretty trivial. They have work experience, an undergrad degree, and are getting or already have an MBA. But what do I know.
      Sep 12, 2017
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      Sophos
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      I genuinely don't see this as a problem for someone who wants to get their degree and start their life without interruptions
      Sep 12, 2017
    • New LaVM
      No firm will explicitly say "no we don't accept candidates from XYZ"---- but I assure you, stuff like his DOES matter. If he isn't going to go to a top tier MS program, it's a waste of money for him. Might as well not go at all.
      Sep 12, 2017
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      Sophos
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      I disagree, but I see what you are saying. At any rate, OP could pursue a degree (at any school) part time and work full time. That was my point.

      Whatever school they pick is up to them.
      Sep 12, 2017
    • New LaVM
      I can only speak from what I know. I worked in IB and now in finance at a large consulting firm... neither of my previous employers will read past your name if you didn't go to a top 50 school. But this is NYC... can't speak for anywhere else. I know I've had to screen potential candidates, and I had a list of schools that mattered, anyone else went to the shredder.
      Sep 12, 2017
  • New LaVM
    I'm not in your field (I'm in finance), but I would suggest going straight into school for your MS. I went straight into work after undergrad and while it's been fine, I wish I hadn't.

    Now I'm interrupting my career to go back for my MBA. Whereas if I just went straight from undergrad it would have caused less disruption in my life.

    This is even more important for you given your non-citizen status and the political shit storm climate the states are in right now. I would say secure whatever student visa you can, enroll in school full time and run with it.
    Sep 12, 2017 0
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    Taco boy

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    @Archon, are you taking advantage of 2Sigmas fully paid grad school
    Sep 12, 2017 2
    • Microsoft PnmaCanal
      What is 2sigmas. Couldn't find anything online about it.
      Sep 12, 2017
    • Amazon alkaline
      2 sigma is a quantitative hedge fund and one @Archon probably works at
      Sep 12, 2017
  • Two Sigma / Eng
    Archon

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    @Taco boy, yeah I'm thinking about getting a MS degree since 2 Sigma covers one course per quarter.
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    • New LaVM
      Columbia does not offer any part time tracks at the graduate level FYI. (It's my alma mater).
      Sep 13, 2017
    • Two Sigma / Eng
      Archon

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      @LaVM http://www.math.columbia.edu/mafn/ this program seems to offer a part time track?
      Sep 13, 2017
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      Taco boy

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      Statistics does as well. Not to mention the entirety of engineering
      Sep 13, 2017
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      Taco boy

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      Through CVN
      Sep 13, 2017
    • New LaVM
      My bad, I was thinking MBA or MFA. Apologies.
      Sep 13, 2017
  • Uber / Eng John3:16
    Im in a similar boat. I chose to work for a few years before grad school. That way I made some money to help pay for it and I think it helped my application out.
    Sep 12, 2017 3
    • Two Sigma / Eng
      Archon

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      How does recommendation letters work? (I doubt my profs still remembered me lol) Do the school require two recommendation letters from professors even for professional candidates?
      Sep 12, 2017
    • Uber / Eng John3:16
      Unless you are applying specifically to research-focused programs, most are okay with managers
      Sep 12, 2017
    • Two Sigma / Eng
      Archon

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      Good to know, thanks!
      Sep 12, 2017
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    Taco boy

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    Columbia dropped their evening class commitment for math of finance
    Sep 12, 2017 1
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      Taco boy

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      So finding a relevant class may be hard
      Sep 12, 2017
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    Archon

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    Good to know. Yeah mathematics methods for finance is probably the only part time option for me at Columbia.
    Sep 12, 2017 0

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