Keep studying or working (in Europe) before moving to USA

New / Eng VAQq11
Jul 29 23 Comments

Hello,

I’m a french student soon graduated with a Msc of Engineer in Cybersecurity

I made a post about moving to the USA, but due to various reasons i probably won’t be able to stay after an internship (if i manage to get one).

considering this, should i make a PhD or another MsC (thinking about Data Science / Machine Learning) in France
Or should i start working (maybe for one of the company i aim in SF?) in France, UK, Canada or another EU country and in 3 years or so, move to USA (maybe by transfer with L1 visa) ? Considering on lot of job offers i saw « PhD » mentionned.

I am really struggling for this decision and i would like advice from people already working in theses kinds of companies.

thanks

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TOP 23 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng LCKA42
    Currently finishing my MSc in Engineering in France in a no-name Engineering school (part of CCP). Plenty of US companies have offices in Europe and willing to transfer you via L1 visa after some time in their office. Had no problem getting interviews at FB, AWS, Google, Uber, Microsoft, Bloomberg, Palantir and many others for internship and full-time positions. Some companies sponsor H1B also (Msft for example) and as you will have a MSc you fall under H1B MSc quota. It’s not easy but feasible.
    Aug 4 11
    • Amazon / Eng LCKA42
      I’m talking about positions in Europe. In the US it will be very difficult to have 6 months because it’s not a standard length and the restriction of J1 visa.
      Aug 9
    • New / IT
      Rgmyel

      New IT

      BIO
      Student in cybersecurity currently @BouyguesTelecom my repher.me :https://repher.me/r/-LlgMARMGzXPyGGO5UeZ Searching for a 6-month internship for 2020
      Rgmyelmore
      Being in the same school, I was wondering if Canada is as hard as the US for the visa if i wanted to work there for an internship
      Aug 9
    • Amazon / Eng LCKA42
      For Google I was told that they don’t offer 3 months internship in whole North America so including Canada. Only Europe.
      Aug 9
    • New / IT
      Rgmyel

      New IT

      BIO
      Student in cybersecurity currently @BouyguesTelecom my repher.me :https://repher.me/r/-LlgMARMGzXPyGGO5UeZ Searching for a 6-month internship for 2020
      Rgmyelmore
      Thank you for your answer and specifically for Amazon is it still possible in Canada?
      Aug 9
    • Amazon / Eng LCKA42
      For Amazon I don’t know
      Aug 9
  • SAP / Eng Johnny100
    Think twice about leaving your country and your culture. I moved to the US after les grandes ecoles at your age, largely because I was uninformed about the US. The dream is one thing and reality is another. I do regret my move at this point in time and I wish I could go back home. I don’t belong in this culture. That ‘s my experience. I would say that before making such a move get all the information you need about the US. And then decide for yourself. Bonne chance!
    Jul 29 3
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Exactly! Avoid this!
      Jul 29
    • New / Eng VAQq11
      OP
      I did not thinked the chick would be this hard. In which city do you live in?
      Can’t you go back home ?
      Personally when I went to SF i liked the fact it was a bit European. Plus the salary and the dream of working in huge IT companies.
      Thanks a lot for your advice, I hope you will find a way to get back to the country you love. Bonne chance!
      Jul 29
    • Microsoft wartortle
      +1 to this. Get an internship and see how do you like living in the US. The salary is not everything although people on Blind seem to think it is.
      I know many people who chose Europe over US, having both options open, including myself. Verify what works best for you.
      Jul 29
  • Oracle alwzangry
    Don't move to the US if you could work in France, UK, Ireland, Germany, or Czech Republic. There's plenty of work in all the top companies going on in those countries. I wouldn't advise anyone to move to North America if it's only for your career, especially if you're going to be constrained by work permits.

    If you have to think so hard about PhD, don't take that route yet and see what you get with your current qualifications.
    Jul 29 3
    • New / Eng VAQq11
      OP
      Thanks a lot for your answer, it give me a better view of what could be my career.
      One of the main reason of my will to move is that I love to travel and loved SF. And also the salary gap (even if life cost is higher) is HUGE. Even by doing well in France for example I won’t ever be able to make to amount like 120k
      Jul 29
    • Oracle alwzangry
      Vacation experience is always better than living and working there. Try that internship. 120k is poor if it's total family income.
      Jul 29
    • New / Eng VAQq11
      OP
      Okay, I’ll do my best for an internship then I will see, maybe get back to EU some time.
      In France, even for a family 120k is clearly huge, you’re clearly at the top 10%/5% richest of the country
      Jul 29
  • Thales xxXW73
    Take a job with Thales, do an internal move to the US. Get your green card sponsored and then go wherever you want.
    Jul 29 1
    • New / Eng VAQq11
      OP
      Do you think this is the best way ?
      Because I think doing an internal move to US can be really hard, some others company could made it easier ?
      Jul 29
  • New / Eng VAQq11
    OP
    Thanks for your answer. I got an answer from google few minutes ago, they wanted detailed grades and told me the date of the internship, sadly the « winter internship » always start in January. I will try for other internship but at least it got me enthusiastic, they opened my resume.
    Yes I think I will try the internship and maybe go back to think about staying longer into USA. Thanks for all the help
    Jul 29 0