L3 google lowball

New irl54
Sep 13 27 Comments

I’m an L3 at Google making 190k TC with 2 yoe.

I am feeling so depressed because my TC doesn’t even break the 200k barrier and I also feel like I should have been leveled at L4. Also I was not able to match with a machine learning team which is what I really wanted.

I really hope to get promo in 1 yr to L4 and then try to get onto a machine learning group with a 20% project.

But people say that is really hard and the Ml teams are more competitive.

I am so depressed, please help. Should I do a PhD?

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  • Databricks / Data
    data4u

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    data4umore
    2 years out of school complaining about 190k crazy.
    Sep 13 7
    • Amazon Orannis
      I grew up in India. I made 15,000 rupees a month (~$200 USD). This kid is trolling
      Sep 13
    • Schonfeld / Eng
      9527

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      9527more
      He’s not trolling. Last night there was a guy said he got $300k offer from Citadel w/ only 2 YOE, and it’s all cash in Chicago...
      Sep 13
    • Google Lаrry Page
      Some have gotten $400K cash from Citadel out of college.
      Sep 13
    • Databricks / Data
      data4u

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      data4umore
      Some not most
      Sep 13
    • Schonfeld / Eng
      9527

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      9527more
      @Larry Page if fresh grad gets hired as a trader, I won’t be surprised if he makes $1 million in the first year. But we are talking about technology side, most likely middle or back office jobs. I don’t think that guy was bragging, as I’ve heard several cases that guys w/ about 5 YOE got same $300k offer. But Citadel is known for driving ppl nuts by paying them double...
      Sep 13
  • Pandora x0kjF
    2 years, 200k income, working at google, hopelessly depressed. get a grip. get off blind and see a therapist.
    Sep 13 0
  • Come join uber and you’ll really know what it feels like to be depressed.
    Sep 13 2
  • Walmart ghu75v
    Google is very middle of the road salary wise. They know they can lowball and people will still work there.

    TC 232k
    Sep 13 2
    • New irl54
      OP
      I think you are right. How many YoE?
      Sep 13
    • Walmart ghu75v
      4 YoE
      Sep 13
  • Oracle IUnknown<>
    You are doing good for 2 yoe. Be happy with what you have kid.
    Sep 13 0
  • Google / Product jr_exec
    The comments are correct. I had 50k at 2 yoe in early oughts at time of dot com collapse. I long for those days. Access to some of the finest mind altering compounds, partying all the time, chilling with close friends, and romantic enterprises.

    TC 525k (would trade it for my youth in a heartbeat). Live is good though :)
    Sep 13 0
  • Uber whoberrr
    You are doing good, there's more to life than TC and work. I learnt it the hard way.
    Sep 13 0
  • Microsoft manAtArms
    Why crying !?!?! 190k with 2 yoe is pretty good. Its above average. Be happy. Be patient
    Sep 13 0
  • Apple snbaham
    Haha you are not getting L4 at 2 yoe. I know people who are really really good who got leveled at L4 after masters and 6 years experience..
    Sep 13 3
    • Intel “SWE”
      It really depends. I know several people who got L4 with (non-FANG) <3 YOE
      Sep 13
    • Google / Mgmt Bingpot
      47% of L3 get promo to L4 within 2 years. 82% within 3. This is internally published. It's not hard to get to L4.
      Sep 14
    • Intel “SWE”
      The context is external hires, so internal promo speed isn’t too relevant..
      Sep 14
  • Google / Eng
    Qlan

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    Qlanmore
    Don’t forget that refreshers will add up and your TC will rise steadily even without promo.
    Sep 13 1
    • New irl54
      OP
      How much refreshers can I expect if I perform at EE?
      Sep 13
  • Credit Karma iyabfmk
    A PhD will get you L4.. Then you’ll be paid the same or less than what you get as SWE with extra years experience, except you’ll miss out on the income during PhD.
    Sep 13 0
  • Apple vnqoza
    That’s not bad at all. L4 hired is usually 2-10yoe from industry even from fang sometimes.
    Sep 13 0