I've read a lot about how difficult it can be to get promoted at Google, and was wondering how this would affect me as a new grad joining the company. How difficult is it to get to L4? And realistically, how long would it take to get to L5? Does it matter if I'm at a remote office (Seattle)? This is holding me back from accepting the offer, and making me wonder if a company like Microsoft with a clearer growth path might be a better choice.
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- Google / Eng ironcheffL3 to L4 is easy. L4 to L5 could be challenging but not insane. Up to L5 is totally reasonable overall. Past that is much harder though. But it's the same everywhere, no? Staff+ for only a small fraction?
- One thing you have to understand about google is promotion is based on what you do here. Not what you did anywhere else or the knowledge you bring from anywhere else. Domain knowledge (or open source tool knowledge) will help you do things, but it won't be used to determine if you meet the next level. It's all about what you land. If google downlevels someone you can expect to be at that level for 12-18 months because it takes time to launch things.Nov 23, 2018 2
- You're expected to work on your own without constant attention from manager/tl/senior engineers. Any feature can be used to help demonstrate that. It's not just the big features, launching multiple smaller features helps too. It's mostly about being able to work without constant guidance and producing google quality artifacts through that process.Nov 23, 2018 4
- Google DjeicubduxI think google has a clear career growth path. Ppl failed to get promo complain here, but the ones got promo wont.
It depends on the team, the project and your ability & efforts. 3 > 4 should be within 1.5 year. 4>5 ~ 2 years.
- I was just promoted from L3-L4 in just under a year. It was a grind though. I think most people are about 1 1/2 to 2 years
- Yes I'm on a small team (3 when I started up to 6 now) supporting a much larger team (500 to 1000+ respectively)
The team was relatively unknown for the first 6 months, and we had to work to get our name out there. My first perf was not great (CME) but my second cycle was much better (SEE)
Keep track of everything and be proactive. I find meetups and events I can go to. The networking part is hard to keep track of with real numbers and impact but it does help.
Note: I am more in a customer facing role
- Google NGLRmoreThey publicly post the times to promo - if I recall correctly L4 to L5 is 2.5 years, on average. L5 to L6 considerably longer - 5 to 7 years or more. Again, people that don’t promo aren’t cut out for the position or don’t want it. Would be easier for them to take a higher level position elsewhere.