L4 _ L5 offer google, in progress

Hello Finished the on site. Recruiter said (informally) that Im being considered at L4 /L5. I think I did 2 amazing, 1 marginal (or good) and 2 good interviews, at L5 level. Next two steps HC then Vp. I have good breadth of experience (not just SW) and have team leadership experience with a reference from google to confirm that. Yoe 14. Masters. Q1: whats a fair TC nowadays (+ breakup if possible) for L5. Q2: I will most likely reject L4. What should my steps be if I get low balled to L4 or low balled in L5 offer? I didnt interview with other FAANG yet, no competing offer, and recruiter knows that. Q3: Can i ask for team lead as L5 from prospect teams? Is it possible to join as team lead? Does that change TC offered? Q4: can you list top platforms/firmware/embedded teams at SV where there is good career growth (im willing to work hard) and interesting projects? Thanks a lot, greatly appreciate your help.

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Apple qsdire Oct 30, 2019

Q1: 300-380k depending on interview, competing offers, and experience. Most likely to be in the 330-350 range. Q2: no competing offer means they will fuk u. Dont trust recruiter. Idk why they like playing this game. Q3: rarely and def not as a new hire unless u are well known in industry. Usually lead is L6+. Q4: stay in money making orgs

Apple hulk420 Oct 30, 2019

So search is a bad org since it doesn’t make money ?

Intuitive Surgical youmama OP Oct 30, 2019

Thanks a lot, What are some money making orgs?

Snapchat bFCN68 Oct 30, 2019

Q2! No offers - no leverage. Hurry up and get some offers if you can

Dell LUHV04 Oct 30, 2019

What if the interviews go well , would that lead to a better offer ? Or Even with a moderate to bad interview , and counter offer - you get top offers from google ?

LinkedIn bonoboo Oct 30, 2019

No competing offer = Low Low ball

Facebook bd2019 Oct 30, 2019

What if he takes and tell G recruiter he has competiting offers?

Facebook bd2019 Oct 30, 2019

Takes = fakes

Apple RoidRage Oct 30, 2019

Why are you leaving Intuitive?

Intuitive Surgical youmama OP Oct 30, 2019

Its a fantastic company with a fantastic product. I have been here for years and want carreer growth and or $

Apple RoidRage Oct 30, 2019

I’ve heard good things apart from pay- hence the question

Snapchat 🐨 koala Oct 30, 2019

Q3: TL is just a tag. There's nothing associated with it. No more TC no more respect. Some manager tag TL some don't and they are effectively TL. So just forget about it you are gonna take 6 months to ramp up.

Google - Hodor Oct 30, 2019

One thing most people won't consider is that the counter offer from your current employer can also count if you play your cards right. Good luck OP!

Facebook mturtle Oct 30, 2019

1. Google offers are not great. For L5, expect low 300s, or even high 200s in worst case. They wont move unless you show other offers. That is how google do. 2. From what you said, you might be stuck with L4 offer; google downlevels aggressively. Recruiter will say "its top L4 band and you will be promoted fast" which is a lie. If its L4, just reject them; they won't budge. If it's L5, say you have other offers. Lie if you have too. If they ask for screenshot, say they are verbal offers. 3. No. 4. Depends on what you are interested in and what your good at. Google is a huge company.

Oracle My Name Mar 8, 2020

Just curious. What's your final offer/TC and level ?