Hi, I am L6 sdm at Amazon. I have an offer for L67 at Microsoft. Is this a match in terms of career level? Tc 360k
L6 would map to about L64 at MSFT. This is a pretty big promo. Take it.
For PM, yes. For SDM L6 is more like L65.
This can't be true unless you hone a skill which is very rare. Giving 67 to L6 is a debacle as that level is a director level although in MS career level and charter are separate so you can still be 67 or 68, still manage small 10 people team while others on same level might have 100 devs in org. Also for some reason the TC you mentioned is probably bit low for 67 especially if you are hired from outside.
What's the difference between career level and charter?
Career level is corporate level defines your ranking if one may say I'm terms of Salary/bonus/stocks etc. However charter is the project or role you have been given. For e.g. I know 67 running show with 10-13 person team and managing one service with all IC reporting to him and not even m2. However there are 67 or even 66 sometimes who ran the whole org or business unit for MS managing 50-100 dev team while doing m2-m3 kind of responsibility.
67 is the top of the principal band. L6 maps to 65, maybe 66. You'd be a step away from partner, that's a huge deal.
Am close to L7 at Amazon (6 months out, managing around 20) and 15 yoe. Sorry for confusion - the Tc i mentioned was at Amazon. I am getting offer for 500k. I am assuming this is like a entry L67?
Thanks for clarification. Now it makes more sense and looks like a true offer situation. L7 to 67 is still a jump in my opinion however you can get it. Closer to 500K is a great offer. If I were you, I would take it in heart beat.
500k isn't entry L67, entry is closer to 450k.
If MS is offering 360TC, then you are not being leveled as a 67, that is more like 66. At 67, you should expect close to 450-500
Read comment above, it’s 500k
But you have to work at Microsoft 🤷♂️ terrible revenue centric culture, no customer focused development at all. Build it and they will come mentality. Life’s not always about cash.
That's a very good point you made life is not about cash. Have a good day. 👍
Half a mil per year to have a lower stress, better work life balance job with better benefits? A raise of triple the average salary in the US for that? Not a bad deal if you ask me.
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It’s a step up for sure. I’ve known L67 engineering leaders at MSFT come into Amazon as L8. You should take it.
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