L7 Amazon (Seattle) offer

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KamznM

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8+ years Sr Engineering QA Manager from Apple actively looking for newer opportunities as TPM or Test Manager roles.
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Apr 11 37 Comments

I got a offer from a recruiter in Amazon Seattle for base-155k, RSU-400k and initial cash bonus of 175k.
Does this look reasonable? Should I negotiate?

Can someone in similar roles share their TC..

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  • Apple / Project
    KamznM

    Apple Project

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    8+ years Sr Engineering QA Manager from Apple actively looking for newer opportunities as TPM or Test Manager roles.
    KamznMmore
    OP
    L7 TPM role
    Apr 11 3
    • Amazon mangomood
      This is super high end for L7 TPM. Also I’ve not seen too many Principle TM. What’s your exact title, i doubt its Sr Manager instead which will be superset role.
      Apr 11
    • Google Trtle
      This is way below equivalent pay for L7 TPM at G, FB, or Azure.
      Apr 11
    • Amazon / Eng hTRS32
      Title is just Principal TPM. No magic there
      Apr 11
  • Lam Research gurukool
    Ohh wait it’s a crap offer. Your TC is declining from year 3. Assuming you don’t get another bonus or refresher in year 3
    Apr 11 10
    • Amazon / Eng hTRS32
      Bullshit. Stock performance has been fantastic year over year. Stock refreshes are /usually/ every two years, but if stock performance isn’t as expected or you’re not meeting target comp for any reason, they can raise your stock the next year or even the same year. I had a manager that gave me a crappy grant bc he and I butted heads a lot. Moved teams and after a year with my new manager, he fixed my next year’s comp.
      Apr 11
    • Lam Research gurukool
      Ok good to know. How much do they give every two years?
      Apr 11
    • Lam Research gurukool
      Also do they take you at L7 with only 10 YOE?
      Apr 11
    • Amazon / Eng hTRS32
      I know someone who was promoted to L7 SDE at almost exactly 10 yoe. All 10 at Amazon.

      Stock refreshers are performance based. But even within each performance rating, there’s a range. Once they determine your target comp, they evaluate your expected salary for the current year and the next year. If you’re short based on past grants, they adjust by adding more shares. In 9 years, I’ve never been given more shares because the stock didn’t meet expectations.
      Apr 12
    • Lam Research gurukool
      Ok are the pays equally competitive at lab 126?
      Apr 12
  • CVS Health Yoho
    Is this for principle TPM? It's a great offer btw.
    Apr 11 0
  • Microsoft Cheech🔥
    For what role?
    Apr 11 0
  • Amazon / Eng Zuckerbot
    Is that 400k per year or over 4?
    Apr 11 0
  • CVS Health Yoho
    What's your YOE?
    Apr 11 2
    • Apple / Project
      KamznM

      Apple Project

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      8+ years Sr Engineering QA Manager from Apple actively looking for newer opportunities as TPM or Test Manager roles.
      KamznMmore
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      10
      Apr 11
    • CVS Health Yoho
      It's a GREAT offer for your YOE. I have 8 YOE but offered L5.
      Apr 11
  • Amazon LlFO08
    Negotiate. L6s are making 350 TC. After bonus you will be Poor af.
    Apr 11 1
    • CVS Health Yoho
      How much is L5 TPM making?
      Apr 11
  • SAP FKrm18
    I researched to find that 325k per year is the highest end of L6. With that your offer seems pretty good at L7. You’re probably around the middle range of that level.
    Apr 11 0
  • Microsoft UseDeFeet
    That’s a really high offer...
    Apr 11 0
  • Lam Research gurukool
    Ohh wow great offer.were you TPM at Apple too ? Is this HW? Ops?
    Apr 11 0
  • Apple / Project
    KamznM

    Apple Project

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    8+ years Sr Engineering QA Manager from Apple actively looking for newer opportunities as TPM or Test Manager roles.
    KamznMmore
    OP
    Sign on is 175k first year and 135k the 2nd
    Apr 11 0
  • Lam Research gurukool
    How many YOE?
    Apr 11 0
  • Lam Research gurukool
    I guess that sign on will be split in two years
    Apr 11 0
  • Apple / Project
    KamznM

    Apple Project

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    8+ years Sr Engineering QA Manager from Apple actively looking for newer opportunities as TPM or Test Manager roles.
    KamznMmore
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    Over 4 years
    Apr 11 0
  • Microsoft antartica
    The offer looks good.

    I am surprised the base is low though. I thought l6 get that and l7 get upto 185 or so.

    Also I thought the offers have #of stock and not value of stock.
    Apr 11 1
    • CVS Health Yoho
      Amazon has a cap of 160k in Seattle
      Apr 11
  • Amazon xTNS64
    If stock appreciate u may not get anything only after year 3 u will see something in yearly refresh
    Apr 11 0
  • Amazon xTNS64
    As someon called out your comp is declining start of yr 3 155+ 120
    Apr 11 0
  • Amazon xTNS64
    Bump up base and negotiate RSU
    Apr 11 0
  • Microsoft NKfm83
    I’m offered 260 TC and told it is the max for L6 Pm-t. Is that not right ?
    Apr 11 0
  • American Express bugrama
    You didn't share the role.
    Apr 11 0