Lack of diversity among women in tech
I’ve been in tech for about 11 years and would say over 80% of female engineers are Asian and generally from other countries. Where are all the other races? I feel like no one ever mentions this side of diversity, but I feel like an outsider since I don’t share the same culture as most other women engineers.
Are Asian women concerned they are very under represented in profession sports like NBA?
How is this post not racist? Do you also choose your doctor who is not “Asian and generally from other countries”? Hire talent but not based on race
But saying that we need more software engineers who aren't white men is considered neither sexist nor racist? Explain.
Sure, moron. The fraction of engineers who aren’t white men is far below their proportion in the general population. Saying that we need more nonwhitemale sw. engrs. in order for the workforce demographics to reflect the general demographics is not the same thing as judging people by racial/gender stereotypes. Please stop voting in elections until you grok this basic dichotomy? kthxbye
I can relate. I’m actually Asian but I still feel like an outsider when I hear other female software engineers speaking in other languages (ex Mandarin or Hindi). Being a minority is hard, but being almost the only representation of your group is much harder. I hope things improve as we try to hire more women in the tech space!
Hard?? Dude you're in frickin' tech. Go do a factory job if you want to know what hard looks like. All of this is self-inflicted... No one has done anything wrong to you in what you just described.
I wonder the same. I am an Asian but not from the 2 predominant countries. My team is 95% from the same country and yet, the company is focusing on hiring more women but still we are not diverse in term of country/ethnicity wise. When I interviewed, I don’t get resume from others? Is this the market for women engineers? What is the breakdown/percentage of women in CS program based on ethnicity?
yes, fisrt go to colleges/universities CS department and take a look at students there, i barely see women of other races. most of them are east and south asians.... i just dont understand why do ppl care so much about diversity in tech.. if other races women choose to learn other things instead of computer science, thats their choice.
Just to add, I have been in tech for 15 years. When I first started, my female coworkers were Brazilian, Cameroon, Phillipine, Bolivian, Cantonese, Irish, Belgian etc and we worked on IT internal tools. When many companies started to outsource in early 2000 that required many of us to stay late night to train our counterpart , many of my colleagues abandoned the tech fields and joined functional role. I am one of the few who stay until now. I am just wondering in CS or MIS programs in school these days, do we not see other ethnicities other than east and south Asians?
2 things: 1. There are more east and south Asians on this planet than any other race. So there’s naturally more of them in a lot of fields not just CS. 2. Culture. East and south Asians are taught to prioritize STEM education over everything else because it allows them to have financial stability.
east asian and south asian women are willing to learn, they are brave and they work hard, even though in their culture women have low status. did they complain anything? and now there are people complaining they dont see other races, WTF...
As non-US white woman this was my experience grown up: I was the lucky one to get a PC at home early compared to my classmates, therefore by the time my school introduced PC/programming classes (Basic) I was already pretty confident and quickly grasped the concepts to be in top-3 in my class. We usually shared 1 PC among 5 people in the class and typically girls sat with girls and boys sat with boys. Girls in my group typically just wanted me to do the assignment and were not really interested in what the teacher was teaching. Boys were trying to get the assignment completed asap to play CounterStrike or Doom (we were allowed to do that). Overall I felt pretty confident in my skills at the time. However once we had a coding tournament across the school and it included the assignments that we have not typically solved in class. I failed miserably, but many of the boys my age didn’t. That was when I thought to myself: “Probably boys are really just better at it”. Many years later when I looked back I realized that boys had a stronger community of friends, including older boys who shared computer related knowledge and I had no one except my teacher. My father was very supportive, but he was a doctor and had no idea if that could be a career. Next year when it was the time to choose the college and major, literally no one suggested it could be possible. There was a subtle notion between girls that CS “is for boys”. Next year (I was already enrolled in a business major) when my father asked me if I wanted to study computer science and was eager to pay extra if I chose to take additional classes it was an eye opener for me. Another story from a friend when her daughter was completely uninterested to see what is inside of the PC when dad showed it, but was fascinated when a school teacher (female) showed them, tells me that the lack of female role models, moms being engaged and interested in tech plays a huge role. Just like with reading: most avid readers come from families that enjoy reading rather than watching TV.
The question is "why there is lack of diversity of race among woman in tech?" What does your computer story has to do with it? By the way, every woman and someone from India got similar stories about lack of computer. I grew up in India and I come from poor family. But, my school had computers since I was in 2nd grade (1995). I still remember BASIC language. Please stop spreading lies and purposely deviating the discussion.
Lies about what? I have no idea what happened in India and why there are more women in tech. I told a personal story about the way we (white girls in my country) were thinking at the time. Seeing a girl playing shooter games at the time wasn’t typical and probably was frowned upon. Boys bonded over those games and exchanged other knowledge and ideas related to that. They upgraded their computers to be able to run more resource demanding games and so on. Despite the fact that I had a computer at home and was an A-student it wasn’t enough to believe that I can be good enough and it is a worthwhile career. One difference between my country and India I can think of is that India early became an outsource country for call centers work. Maybe that’s how Indian parents figured anything related to IT can be a great career and pushed kids of both genders to pursue it.
Get an education. And fucking compete. What's with the bs constant victim whining and assumption of bias.
I’m South Asian, I grew up in the Bay Area and spend a lot of time among a very diverse group. If this about not being able to relate and make alliances, it’s probably your issue and not theirs. If this about why are their more Asians in tech vs other races in general, which actually affects men & women (@ Airbnb there are more Asian engineers than any other race). Then you’re talking about something cultural, Asian cultures tend to prioritize STEM fields since they offer social mobility and stability.
It just means the other women just chose other professions. You shouldn't be concerned though. There have been great scientists, doctors and executives among women.
Exactly. There wasn’t such issue back in the 1980s. Women’s interest has shifted to other fields afterwards.
Actually when I started, we had a diverse women engineers, at least at the companies I worked for. It started to disappear in the early mid 2000s when companies started to outsource offshore.