Layoffs on Monday - Advice?

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  • eBay YAgV34
    Embrace the layoffs. This is an opportunity to get some well deserved time off before the next career move
    Feb 9 10
    • eBay DFQW81
      Google, typically, software engineers aren't living paycheck to paycheck, so it's a good opportunity to take a week or so off before getting back into interviewing.
      Feb 11
    • Microsoft $$|$$
      Not for people who are on visa
      Feb 11
    • Riot Games / Eng
      mIPC18

      Riot Games Eng

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      mIPC18more
      My company will probably be sending recruiters over there to pick people up if this happens, as will others I'm sure
      Feb 11
    • Cruise Automation
      wutb

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      wutbmore
      I'm a huge proponent of taking time off between jobs and have probably done so to excess, but I wonder if it's a good idea to do so during such a tight labor market. I'm sure you'll still be hireable, but locking in comp while employers are so desperate seems like a good idea
      Feb 11
    • Wayfair 1234abc123
      @Riot will you be sending branded Teslas, like Oracle does at AWS events? (please don't do this, it makes you look very sad and desperate.)
      Feb 11
  • LinkedIn LSJk37
    Stay strong, reach out to your LinkedIn connections and start looking outside.
    Feb 9 0
  • Netflix LG
    Always a good idea to cover some leet code problems every day
    Feb 9 8
    • Microsoft gumba
      Everyday will suck, but maybe a few per week is more practical
      Feb 11
    • Intuit secretD
      How would it suck, unless if u agree what we do day to day in job as coder sucks too.
      Feb 11
    • Oracle suchisl!fe
      Sad story of an engineers life
      Feb 11
    • Splunk KE94107
      The whole reason for leetcoding is ridiculous: because fewer than 1% of us actually write algorithms as part of our daily work, the only way to keep current is to use your free time re-learning crap you took in college at age 19. Yuck.
      Feb 11
    • Lockheed Martin / Other
      Schz3

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      Schz3more
      Bingo, secretD
      Feb 11
  • Oracle not_larry
    Update resume. Now.
    Feb 9 4
    • Intuit secretD
      That Now is really powerful. Made me think about updating mine even if M in no trouble.
      Feb 11
    • New
      aatw

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      aatwmore
      Hi Larry!
      Feb 11
    • And send it out if you even have a remote chance of getting hit. Easier to withdraw consideration than be the 89th person to apply out of 90 schmucks that got cut. Early bird gets the worm (however 2nd mouse gets the cheese).
      Feb 11
    • New
      aatw

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      Jamaican dude lives between NYC & Jamaica. Biz Dev @HackerHostelJM @akuawalters
      aatwmore
      Damn Skippy... What passion projects do you have laying around? Got enough capital and time to put some time in on them?
      Feb 11
  • Futurism elonsmusk
    Also, never take it personally. Someone from the top makes a decision — usually finance-related — and the proverbial shit rolls downhill. If the unfortunate happens, do as Bruce Lee says:

    “Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”
    Feb 9 4
    • Google nlogn
      Or be a cat, easier to achieve.
      Feb 9
    • Amazon spookykid
      Looks like Lee's thought sucked. He died very young.
      Feb 11
    • Verizon zoBr70
      Be Chuck Norris
      Feb 11
    • Clover Health / Eng doenfh
      Be yourself, unless you can be Betty White. Then, be Betty White.
      Feb 11
  • Salesforce / Product BvFy21
    Here’s my list from a past lay-off. Missing numbers are ones I removed as they were specific to me.

    1. Go into office, clean desk in advance. If it happens it will want to exit the building quickly.
    2. Order Employee Software, to the max
    3. Get all fitness reimbursements
    4. Back up all data
    5. Print out all contacts / save to cloud
    6. Be ready to wipe HD’s
    7. Update LinkedIn, Resume
    8. Freshen contacts with a what’s up, esp at companies where I want I want to go next

    10. Check all other employee discounts, aapl etc.
    11. Research cell phone porting
    12. Strategize RE: stock options and savings
    13. (on layof, liquidatestocks and funds etc to make sure cash flow is solid for a while
    14. (on layoff) Meet w. Accountant to strategize stock liquidation plans re tax
    15. Explore partner’s Open Enrollment and benefits vs cobra
    Feb 10 5
    • Amazon / Eng scoops34
      Why will you want to exit the building quickly?
      As a person that's never seen layoffs, does it turn into a fucking riot?
      Feb 11
    • Salesforce / Product BvFy21
      It’s a very emotional day. You don’t want to weep in front of coworkers or even just have a ton of awkward interactions. You just want to gtfo-at least I did.
      Feb 11
    • Conduent Mile
      Organize your afternoon so you can get to the layoff party. It'll just be beer & pizza - and organize it yourself if you have to. Some people won't go, but it's a good chance to chat and talk about plans.
      Feb 11
    • A10 Networks / Eng
      El_Kabong

      A10 Networks Eng

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      El_Kabongmore
      Very good list. @scoops34 - If the lay-off is big enough, it will get crazy. I worked at a very large company that had a very big bankruptcy, and they laid off 80% of the workforce. You want to gtfo ASAP.
      Feb 12
    • General Motors E.TuskMusk
      I can vouch for cleaning up your desk beforehand. There’s nothing more demoralizing than slowly going through all your things as a HR/Security person waits to walk you out.
      Feb 13
  • Pinterest JEJM77
    More immediately, download your W-2 and any other forms you may need (benefit information for the next few weeks, work authorization, etc.), back up any personal files you want to save, make sure there’s nothing you’ll be sad about losing if you get cut off Monday morning at 8 AM
    Feb 9 4
    • Amazon / Eng scoops34
      Oh God, this.
      If you ever tell a company that you're leaving for a rival, a security guard will typically come over to watch you pack and escort you out same day.
      Feb 11
    • Activision Blizzard OFSF20
      The people who have already been let go were asked to leave immediately, and facilities is packing/mailing their things to them.
      Feb 11
    • P&G Xkzq46
      Yeah, but he’s saying get your electronic shit. A copy of your insurance policy (COBRA) a copy of the termination policy, a copy of your performance reviews, a copy of your pay stubs. Get all of it now. Security may mail your shit back to you, but they’re not going to get those things off the intranet for you
      Feb 11
    • SpaceX / Eng plokjimnb
      Also just go ahead and take a shit on a dept manager's desk in advance. If you get laid off you may regret not taking this action beforehand
      Feb 11
  • SpaceX uevh5
    Update your LinkedIn and turn on the I am actively looking setting. I've been laid of three times in the last four years and nothing boosts morale more than getting recruiters' calls the day of the layoff. My TC more than tripled as a result of the job changings.
    Feb 9 2
    • Microsoft / Eng cachoocho
      What’s your TC at SpaceX? And YOE?
      Feb 11
    • SpaceX uevh5
      It was $260k when I left. I am back at MSFT at $330k. 22 yoe.
      Feb 12
  • Comcast
    cmr1222

    Comcast

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    cmr1222more
    This is the never ending cycle of making profits, squeezing employees to extract more profits and the end results always turn out the same. The public gets spooked, recession and resurgence. When will we learn new tricks?
    Feb 9 3
    • Google nlogn
      Why do you need new tricks if the old one works every single time?
      Feb 9
    • Amazon sinter
      Economists should care about fixing this but they tend to operate from atop a pile of assumptions which is not a good approach for fixing structural issues.
      Feb 11
    • Booking.com b.usdriver
      How is this an economists issue? Clearly shitty behavior from execs and and policy makers turning a blind eye
      Feb 11
  • Qualcomm / Eng ggIN&OUT
    If you’re Indian, other Indians will refer you! If not you’re fucked!
    Feb 11 2
    • PayPal
      outOfBound

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      Who cares
      outOfBoundmore
      Not true. I will refer you irrespective of nationality. I value referral bonus more
      Feb 11
    • Cruise Automation andhcuf
      I love this. Capitalism beats racism :) unfortunately it also beats humanity
      Feb 12
  • Facebook / Eng 5'6"Indian
    Update your resume and don't blame yourself if you're impacted. Good luck
    Feb 9 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    UTukMyJerb

    Amazon Eng

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    UTukMyJerbmore
    OP where are you based and what's your title and YOE. I have a few roles to fill.
    Feb 9 4
    • Amazon / Eng robotpeep
      Don't do it
      Feb 11
    • Wayfair 1234abc123
      Some freshly pipped spots to fill, eh?
      Feb 11
    • AdRoll ipopwc
      Is that a spot market joke?
      Feb 12
    • Wayfair 1234abc123
      No it's an Amazon joke. He just fired people and now wants to replace them. Cuz Amazon. PIP.
      Feb 12
  • Microsoft Desitechie
    Layoffs ate over hyped.
    I've seen people --even those without mortgages-- fear layoffs instead of celebrating that they are getting a 3-6 month severance pay.
    If only I could get laid off with a 6 month severance, I'd be celebrating!!
    Feb 11 4
    • Verizon / IT Hedin!
      This. I would take all my unvested stock (thank you very much), take 6 months of free pay and medical insurance and enjoy life / travel / spend time with family. Then I would LC for a month to get back.
      Feb 11
    • Uber Rocco69
      Depends on how much you like your current position and how good the overall market is. In 2002, you could have been looking for a job for a year as one of the top 5% of engineers and it would have been a hit or miss. Some of the people who kept their jobs were not even close to the best, but were at the right place at the right time
      Feb 11
    • Microsoft Desitechie
      I'm talking of the recent past. we haven't been close to anything like 2002 in 10 years.
      Even if you're on a Visa, most decent companies keep you on payroll for a while.
      Some people are just paranoid.
      Feb 11
    • VMware BobbleHat
      The paranoid survive
      Feb 11
  • eBay laserpntr
    Spam recruiters, update resume, leetcode, interview at places you don’t want to work at first, to get practice.
    Feb 9 0
  • Facebook NLWa46
    Read up on how to negotiate through a lay-off. Stay strong and lean on your loved ones and family. This is not about you, but the company and management. Remind yourself of that often if impacted.
    Feb 11 0
  • Microsoft / Eng boblawblog
    You guys ruined WoW, you deserve it. Maybe you'll get store mounts as severance.
    Feb 11 0
  • Vungle pyTP81
    Keep your chin up. These layoffs are the result of decisions most likely outside of your control. Don’t take it personally. If you can, try to setup 1:1’s with anyone in the company who has been supportive of you and your work during your time there. You never know where people will end up. This is a relatively small industry, doors will open. It may not happen right away but try to use the time, however long it may be, to do a thorough gut check to figure out the right next move for you, your passions.
    It’ll all work out. It probably doesn’t feel like it atm but it will.
    Feb 11 0
  • Expedia Smurfette
    Copy any non-confidential materials you don’t want to lose - kudos emails, annual reviews, presentations you’ve made, names of people you want to stay in touch with etc - to a jump drive or email them to a personal account, in case you are terminated immediately and won’t be able to get back to your accounts.
    Feb 11 0
  • Tableau HyperJesus
    Get out of the gaming industry. Or just accept that this will always be your fate.
    Feb 11 3
    • VMware chupa
      Yearly layoffs are the norm at most major tech companies.
      Feb 11
    • Microsoft / Eng palais
      But in gaming, whole studios close...
      Feb 11
    • Microsoft / Design 206wrkr
      I found the gaming industry to be very juvenile. Studios up & down, followed by the same people/employees.
      Feb 13
  • Activision Blizzard others
    Fucking hell this was bullshit
    Feb 12 10
    • Activision Blizzard others
      3 months. This whole thing is fucking bullshit
      Feb 12
    • How long did u work there
      Feb 13
    • Activision Blizzard others
      1 year 3 months . There was a wide range of people who got laid off. My org got hit hard. Basically being an engineer on a non game team is aweful.
      Feb 13
    • It isn’t super difficult to find another job if you can code. So could be worse. You could have been marketing or esports.
      Feb 14
    • Activision Blizzard others
      The leetcode environment makes interviewing painful
      Feb 14