Leave employer w/o notice?

IBM fkui
Jul 9 26 Comments

I'm looking for a HR or legal expertise here but personal experience is welcomed.
I've been with IBM for 5 years and haven't had a single penny for a raise. I have applied for over 1000 internal openings (seriously, over 1000) in these past years and I have been contacted back probably less than 10 times total. I feel like I am stuck and the only way is out, which tbh breaks my heart because I still love the company but I've been treated with a lot of disrespect and indifference (there's more to it but I don't want to get into the details for the sake of anonymity) . I feel that if I leave, I'll never want to come back, and judging by the lack of success in trying, I won't ever be able to anyway. So I wonder if I should just take my vacation and plan it as I start a new job and simply ghost IBM or if this would actually make me lose money. All these years without even inflation adjustment in pay made me very tied on money so I cannot afford to put in a notice and get let go before the time is up too. I don't care about ethics or burning bridges at this point because I've done everything I could within and got nothing but the cold shoulder, so why respect an organization that doesn't give a rat's a$$ to me? All I want is to get the max amount of money I am entitled to without having the company screwing me over some more on the way out.

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TOP 26 Comments
  • Salesforce Dvdbhвл
    Just stop showing up and see when they will notice. I have known people that got away with it for months.
    Jul 9 6
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Lol I wish.. But the micromanagement is too big, if I show "away" status on our IM for too long, there comes a call from my boss asking if I am at work. (I did find a way around this BTW)
      Jul 9
    • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
      For months? For real? 😂😂
      Jul 9
    • Salesforce Dvdbhвл
      Yeah it was at HP a long time ago. When you have hundreds of thousands of employees it’s hard to keep track I guess. IBM is huge too.
      Jul 9
    • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
      I heard about someone had resigned but the HR forgot to take them off the payroll. They still got paid regularly for like a year?
      Jul 9
    • Reddit Ppajq7
      You're thinking of the plot to office space.
      Jul 9
    • Salesforce Dvdbhвл
      Naw that the HR forgetting thing happened to my friend at a startup. He got paid an extra 3 months with 401k matching. Seriously just stop showing up and stop answering texts and email. See how long the termination takes. My bet is that at IBM firing someone takes a while. They gotta figure out what is happening to you first. I mean, what if you were seriously hurt and couldn’t respond? They gotta make a reasonable investigative effort before terminating you. It’s also best to do this when you know your manager is going on vacation. That would be a double fuck you and is seriously funny. This one I have done. Basically quit right when a manager I hated went on a 3 week vacation and then by the time he was back I was at a new job already. Also told HR I hated that fucker and I didn’t show up that last few weeks. I got paid to do a road trip up the Pacific Northwest and got my vacation pay too . It was kind of satisfying to be honest. If you plan to do this though don’t tell anyone where you are going just in case jealous people sabotage you. You will find that people care less than you think when you disappear. I had a coworker see me on the street after I left and wonder where I was going, and then he messaged me on LinkedIn after he saw the update. People who do actually care about you will reach out. Really there is nothing illegal about not showing up.
      Jul 9
  • Facebook Ufdtedg
    Put in the notice, if you're let go before time is up, you will still be paid for it. Moreover, your vacation will be paid out to you in cash if you don't take it.
    Jul 9 4
    • Microsoft / Eng peasanton
      This is good.. Assuming IBM encashes your unused vacation days..
      Jul 9
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      I don't think the employer is obligated to pay for the remaining of your notice. Do you have any info on this? A team member got booted last winter and he got no notice, no warning and no severance.
      Jul 9
    • Microsoft / Eng peasanton
      I know at Microsoft up to 10-20 vacation days can be encashed if unused when leaving.. But also, Microsoft typically gives severance.. Unless they're firing you for an hr / security / privacy violation maybe? I'd expect that IBM would have some policy around it that you could find on their hr site?
      Jul 9
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      @peasanton getting the cash for the unused vacation does sound good. And no, not getting fired or anything, nor breach any security or hr policy at all. Just simply tired of getting the cold shoulder. I want to do so much more and all doors are closed here 😔
      Jul 9
  • Amazon / Eng
    elatedowl

    Amazon Eng

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    Amazon
    elatedowlmore
    Do leet code, find a better job, but put in your two weeks notice when you find something better. Don't burn bridges - basic game theory. You lose more than you gain when you don't act professional.
    Jul 9 2
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      I know the higher grounds really sounds like the best thing to do. I'm just so sick of trying so hard to move up and get let down, I don't even understand why, nobody tells me anything or how to get better in here. It's always do more, you're scolded if you don't get it right but you're invisible if you do.
      Jul 9
    • Honestly OP you just need to suck it up and do what elatedowl suggested above. You're not the first person with a shitty job. That's the hard reality. Get yourself ready to interview, land a better role, and exit your current job professionally. That's really the only reasonable thing to do.
      Jul 9
  • Oracle OlJs40
    Its at will employment. There is nothing legal here. You can quit without notice any time you want. You will not be eligible for rehire and may annoy some co-workers, but that is it.
    Jul 9 1
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Nothing *illegal* you meant?
      Jul 9
  • Oracle hrjdidns
    Can you "work remotely" and find a second job? You can draw 2 pay checks that way. I am all for sticking it to the man but this has significant risks
    Jul 9 4
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Yes, I'm interviewing for other jobs and once I get an offer, I thought about milking it out as much as possible
      Jul 9
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Illegal to switch jobs? Lol ok... Job abandonment is shady, sure, but not illegal.
      Jul 9
    • Microsoft jT47lg
      It’s not illegal to work two jobs, but it might violate any employment agreement between one or both employers and they might sue you if you write code for either of them because the ownership of the code you write during the dual time might be in question after that.

      Just do your two week notice and take a break between jobs if you can afford it.
      Jul 9
    • Citibank VkbK27
      Breach of contract, not illegal
      Jul 9
  • Peloton / Other
    Thizzy

    Peloton Other

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    Peloton, Samsung Electronics
    Thizzymore
    2 weeks is not alot of time. Line up a nice gig, put in your 2 weeks and be professional. They might not have been, doesn't mean you should do the same. It comes down to you and the value and morals you hold true to yourself.
    Jul 9 1
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Fuck the morals to give where there aren't any received. Clean conscience on this. If I was treated right, I'd never even consider leaving like this!
      Jul 9
  • Do you have a new job lined up?
    Jul 9 1
    • IBM fkui
      OP
      Not yet. I'd only do this once a new job offer is set.
      Jul 9