Leaving Microsoft for Google/Uber/Tower. Manager not allowing resignation

Microsoft biOu21
Jul 26 237 Comments

So I decided to leave Microsoft. I have offers from Uber, Google and Tower Research and I told my manager that I'll be leaving for Google.
Because of the competitor policy my manager is not filling my resignation as in Microsoft India manager has to fill in the resignation to HR and he does not want me to be walked out immediately.
Not only this he has also made me on call for next one week and expecting me to complete the feature work and do proper transition simultaneously. What should I do in this case, he is behaving so weirdly. Also I want to be walked out asap from Microsoft IDC to spend some time with family and friends.
Please suggest what should I do.

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TOP 237 Comments
  • HealthChannels / Project txdi
    Why did you tell him you were leaving for Google? I just resign, I never tell my employer why I am leaving. It is none of his business.
    Jul 26 31
    • Facebook
      alt_qq

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      alt_qqmore
      At MS you can generally expect the competitor protocol to be followed, but yeah it would be stupid to assume that it's a guarantee you'll be walked out. It's OK to be disappointed that it didn't happen, but honestly it's just gravy IMO. Nice if it happens, but normal notice if it doesn't
      Jul 28
    • Oracle tMVL63
      😲 *withdraws Ellie Mae application*
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Exactly, I feel we're all on the same page now.
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft oh snap!
      We’re not on the same page. The manager doesn’t have discretion here. He’s breaking the rules/company policy to get his way and most likely because he’s a douche. Report to HR and make sure to CC the management chain in the US if Hr in India is so corrupt and subservient.
      Jul 28
    • Juniper scandeep
      Wow Cisco. Hope karma comes back to haunt you when it’s time for you to find another job.
      Jul 28
  • Lol just cc the HR and email saying that you are going to competitor. HR would walk you out.
    Jul 26 20
    • Lol Microsoft is butthurt he got proved wrong
      Jul 28
    • SAP own
      Typical losing/ retreating behavior, I see. 'idc nearly enough' when faced with objective evidence. Next time just state you aren't interested in the truth since you obviously can't be bothered to face (let alone research) it.
      Jul 28
    • Uber bag .
      SAP you totally owned Microsoft man! Bravo. Do people who win arguments on internet go to a special heaven? Is there a hall of fame? Is there a knighting ceremony? Really want to know what happens when you unlock this rare achievement!
      Jul 28
    • Amazon аlv
      You join the special club of this guy:
      Jul 28
    • SAP own
      Ha..ha, thanks, Uber, some profile names are self-fulfilling, I guess. 😉

      Oh, and, btw: I'm not a guy 😉
      Jul 28
  • PayPal stripesuck
    Just don’t show up.
    Jul 26 5
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Stupid advice
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft hey ha ho
      Actually good advice. Just tell you to not come
      Jul 28
    • Apple EdenFruit
      Great advice.
      Jul 28
    • Amazon tYds04
      What're they gonna do? Fire you?
      Jul 28
    • Coupa somethinge
      He will owe backwages based on contract
      Jul 28
  • Microsoft oh snap!
    I left MSFT 3 months ago. You need to go to HRWEB and fill out the “leaving Microsoft” form. Make sure to mention that you’re going to Google and that’s it. You’ll be escorted out by the end or the day. The only way your manager can keep you working during the notice period is by breaking protocol and hiding the fact that you have given notice and intend to leave for a competitor. If you fill out the “living Microsoft” form Microsoft HR gets notified immediately and it’s beyond manager powers and even his HR friends because now there’s an official record that’s going to be there forever. My manager tried the same kind of trick with me and this got me off the hook.
    Jul 28 0
  • New / Finance gAKq67
    They don’t own you
    Jul 26 2
    • EPAM Systems ExplodingBanana
      In India maybe they do
      Jul 28
    • New / Eng QTdN03
      Is India an “against your will” employment state?
      Jul 28
  • Cisco
    c0dex

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    c0dexmore
    Show him the middle finger and walk out. And start your new job ASAP before he can find ways to fuck it up for you
    Jul 26 2
    • Microsoft bpFu23
      Just a word of caution to OP. Never(or as much as possible) burn bridges. ESP when you are parting ways. First, it’s uncool... but more importantly... you can’t foresee the future... you never know when or who would come to your aid when you are in a shitstorm, not to mention your career growth possibilities.

      Try to think of the patience and time taken to resolve amicably as an investment... it may or may not yield results... but when it does, it’s usually to your career advantage.

      In conclusion... just a hypothetical situation... let’s say you piss off your Manager, and in say, 2 years, he joins your new company as your bosses peer, or your own boss... while legally there may not be much to do, there will always be a rift or lack of trust.

      Just my 2c.
      Jul 28
    • I’ve burned bridges in the past. Sometimes the situation merits it. Nothing is more important than your own happiness.
      Jul 28
  • New / Finance gAKq67
    I would just email my resignation and walk out and leave my badge behind
    Jul 26 1
    • Qualcomm NqAf57
      The OP isn't in the USA. Unlike the USA, other parts of the world, such as India and Europe, have employment contracts that are legal documents stipulating certain acceptable methods for terminating said contract. Walking out isn't generally one of them.
      Jul 28
  • Microsoft CaughtOnce
    You are an at will employee.
    The employer can fire you whenever they want and you can stop showing up for work whenever you want.
    There won't be any legal repercussions if you just leave.
    Jul 26 7
    • Salesforce CloudSurfr
      There was not mention of pay...just wanting time with family.
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Yea right. Anybody can quit and immediately leave. If that was the case this thread wouldn't exist.
      Jul 28
    • SAP own
      CaughtOnce, the world is not America. Everything in your statement is the OPPOSITE of what is legally allowed in India (or at least only conditionally allowed, and not as easily as you seem to imply).
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft / Eng
      samurai6

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      samurai6more
      You still can leave but won't get experience/relieving letter.
      Jul 28
    • DigitalOcean / Eng howdoyouDO
      "At will employment" is a US-only concept. Most other countries have a mandatory notice period set in law, which serves both the employer and the employee. Your employer can't just tell you at 4:55pm that you are fired and shouldn't show up to work tomorrow. They need to continue paying your salary for another month. Whether you actually need to come in is left at their discretion. The flip side is that you can't just rage-quit. You need to show up for another month and pass on your work to your backfill. Your next employer obviously knows about this law and that you won't actually join for a month after you were hired, and they are usually OK with this, because they know that they are equally protected and you won't just disappear one day.
      Jul 28
  • Walmart 🌲50
    @OP, If you got into Tower Research, why did you choose Google? Did Google beat the offer from Tower Research? What's your yoe and what are the offers?
    Jul 28 4
    • Google burnItDown
      Not everything is about money. We are engineers, not prostitutes.

      You don’t just ignore everything else and flock to whoever pays more.
      Jul 28
    • Walmart 🌲50
      Yeah, we are engineers, hence we do it for free, right?
      Jul 28
    • Google burnItDown
      No, but your question tells me you’re somehow unable to believe that the OP picked G over tower research despite probably being offered lower money.

      Like somehow money’s the first factor for taking a decision
      Jul 28
    • Walmart 🌲50
      I don't think there are first or second factors, it's a combination of several. But I agree money is not the only factor. Getting into Tower is more difficult than getting into Google. So in addition to paying well, working for Tower is a badge of honor in itself. At least it used to be. On the negative side, wlb is pretty poor, and HFT might not be everyone's dream JD.
      Jul 29
  • Careem boxboxbox
    Use the terms in your contract . They can't over rule that in any case
    Jul 26 2
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Is a company decision to waive notice if he's going to a competitor.
      Jul 28
    • Palo Alto Networks Clowns
      I have seen people saying they go to competitor to get 2 free weeks even if they didn’t. So manager should use discretion. Also, if different BU, it may not matter. Furthermore, who truly believe it helps ? I mean the employee should have prep 2 weeks earlier (or more) for his exit.
      Jul 28
  • Google burnItDown
    So typically manager is supposed to walk you out if you’re leaving for a competitor because they would want to protect their trade secrets. That’s the whole point of identifying a competitor.

    Since your manager is acting like an absolute a-hole, you can directly mail askhr or visit them on 3rd floor above the cafeteria in person, and tell them your situation. I’m a 100% sure HR will walk you out.

    Also, TC or Gtfo :/
    Jul 28 0
  • Facebook Kmbur
    Are you trying a "walk me out but still pay me" maneuver? If that's the case then good on your manager to try to get you to resign.
    Jul 26 6
    • Salesforce CloudSurfr
      Kombur...that's not what OP said at all lol. Can't assume that
      Jul 28
    • SAP own
      CloudSurfr, absence of proof is not proof of absence. There would most certainly be a notice period (unless OP had some special contract when joining - highly unlikely). See my comment above
      Jul 28
    • Salesforce CloudSurfr
      Maybe but "absence of proof" isn't proof that the assumptions being made here are correct. He stated certain info and we'd need more to accurately advise, that's clear. The rest is not so why bother confusing the issue with accusations and judgements? That is my point to kmbur. Your earlier post stated that their could be legal ramifications, which is quite possible. There are always potential issues, but not the same argument and I don't know why you'd want it to be viewed as such
      Jul 28
    • SAP own
      Uh, do you feel it's a very wise or well-informed move to inform your current boss about where you are joining, ESPECIALLY if you KNOW that your future org is a COMPETITOR? What would you objectivity call such a move?

      "There are always potential issues, but not the same argument"

      'Not the same argument' as what? Don't even know what this means.
      Jul 28
    • Facebook Kmbur
      @CloudSurfr You are right that this might not be the case, if so then my comment is irrelevant to OP. I have just been seeing a lot of people trying to game the walk out system to get some free paid time off. OP's wording points to that direction. Otherwise I don't know why OP would have needed to mention he was going to a competitor
      Jul 28
  • Microsoft / Eng stkundrflw
    What are your offers for Tower/Google/Uber? And what's your TC?
    Jul 27 1
    • Microsoft biOu21
      OP
      See my new comment on the post
      Aug 1
  • Samsung SomePark
    Tell him screw you. People like them are not worthy of your respect. Bridges like those are meant to be burned
    Jul 28 0
  • Microsoft QGws83
    Just stop coming to work, he’ll figure it out
    Jul 28 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      samurai6

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      samurai6more
      Then that time adds up in your notice period
      Jul 28
    • Juniper invisibl
      That's not possible in India. Companies ask for relieving letter from earlier companies. It's a bullshit thing.
      Jul 28
  • Uber / Mgmt
    TK2DK

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    TK2DKmore
    Why do you have to identify your manager's ethnicity?
    Jul 27 2
    • Microsoft / Eng stkundrflw
      Don't see it anywhere in the post.
      Jul 27
    • Microsoft qwertyhhhh
      Op meant "Microsoft India" manager, not Microsoft "'India' manager"
      Jul 28
  • Microsoft stillonbed
    Microsoft India never fails to disappoint you! Morons are huge in number!!!
    Jul 28 1
    • Hotwire Achtung!!
      May sound bad to OP but I see people coming from these places to be as bad as well. I had an interviewer at Tower who was from Microsoft. One meeting with him and both Tower and Microsoft lost my respect. Although OP has 3 covered offers, from his post itself he seems to be some kind of similar a*hole. Lol. Who would want such a piece of shit, for anything other than putting him on call?
      Jul 28
  • Microsoft oXJQ15
    Tc or gtfo?
    Jul 27 0
  • Cisco XQyw76
    If you have your PTO's, just take it and don't show up.
    Jul 28 2
    • Facebook / Eng hooman
      This. Take 2 weeks PTO. Last time I checked slavery is outlawed in the world (and hopefully India). Your manager doesnt own you
      Jul 28
    • Microsoft oh snap!
      Bad advice. Unused PTO can be cashed out. Fill out the official leaving Microsoft form and mention going to competitor. You’ll get 2 weeks without using your PTO.
      Jul 28
  • Google burnItDown
    A thread with ~200 comments and looks like the OP doesn’t even give enough fux to check it :P

    Let’s stop wasting time here bois!
    Jul 29 0

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