Leetcode ruining fang talent

Snapchat TalohwuH
Aug 5, 2018 18 Comments

Fang used to be a great place to work with smart people but it seems to have been diluted with a bunch of leetcoders who aren’t actually that talented. Facebook for example has grown a huge amount in the last year and I imagine they’re all awful engineers compared to 5 years ago.

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  • Dell Rorschach
    May be it’s time to stop asking leetcode style questions and focus on real life experience?

    FANG dug this hole for themselves that rather than focusing on real world things they focussed 100% on leetcode style questions.
    Aug 5, 2018 7
    • Snapchat TalohwuH
      OP
      I think fang is interviewing candidates at such a large scale that at this point they can invest in problem setters.
      Aug 5, 2018
    • Facebook PUMPKNS
      How is "real world experience" going to tell you if a candidate can write code?
      Aug 7, 2018
    • Dell Rorschach
      Real world code. Not sorting s binary tree. Do you ever have to write a binary tree manually?
      Aug 7, 2018
    • Dell Rorschach
      I would give them a piece of legacy code to read and a small requirement to change, fix and enhance the code. 99.9% of the times that’s all we do
      Aug 7, 2018
    • Facebook PUMPKNS
      Sounds like a boring job if you never write new code from scratch.
      Aug 7, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng 5'6"Indian
    Before joining FANG: The bar is high.
    1 month after joining FANG: fucking stupid new hires, the bar has drastically dropped.
    Aug 5, 2018 2
    • Amazon / Eng onMyWay
      Ahahah, this hits close to home
      Aug 5, 2018
    • Jet / Eng jetsetting
      Damn this is disappointing to hear
      Aug 6, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng onMyWay
    Imagine based on?
    Aug 5, 2018 0
  • Symantec O(logN)
    Unless you provide facts, this post is nothing more than an opininated rant!
    Aug 5, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn / Eng gTBK55
    1. Sadly through no fault of your own no one will listen to you AT ALL because you are from Snapchat.
    2. They will say candidates are leaking the questions to leetcode
    3. Nothing will change.

    Meritocracy right?

    Listen ladies and gentlemen . No one cares how good you really are. Only whether or not you can pass their test of how good or not you are. Never forget that.

    Learn to pass the test and feel blessed that you have figured out a way that you can..

    There are many more who can only wish they could
    Aug 5, 2018 0
  • Proofpoint / Other foodtruckj
    You can also say that due to leetcode, many competent coders are getting into FANGs and then they will be nurtured as true engineers under senior engineers who work on that team.

    When you join a FAANGM or GAAANDU (whichever you prefer), you need to focus on learning, but to learn you need intermediate coding and thinking skills and leetcode is there for it.

    I agree however that people with 8 to 10 years of experience shouldn't be asked leetcode problems on interviews. Maybe make it a small component of their interview.
    Aug 5, 2018 3
    • Facebook PUMPKNS
      How do you filter out the people with 8 to 10 years of experience who haven't written any code for the last 6 years?
      Aug 7, 2018
    • Proofpoint / Other foodtruckj
      You only filter out those who have been coding.
      I meant to say 8 to 10 years of coding experience. I agree that some people stop coding and move to management, but they never apply for software engineering jobs and go after management positions instead.
      Aug 7, 2018
    • Facebook PUMPKNS
      You might be surprised.
      Aug 8, 2018