Level at Microsoft matching 500k-600k TC

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Thinking of applying, several interesting positions. Wonder what level would be relevant to matching my 500-600k TC there. 15+ yoe
What's the pay structure (% bonus ranges, yearly refreshers targets etc...)

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  • Microsoft 0xdeadbeet
    That comp is possible at levels people say (68+ probably ) but you need to understand expectations. It ain’t going to be a 9-5 thing and you’ll be calibrated against people who have been inside the company for years - ICs with significant scope and decades of background in highly specific areas or managers with teams of at least 40, possibly much higher, all in critical product groups with a unique culture and lots of legacy code.

    wlb for level a 63 is very different than wlb for a level 68.
    Jan 18 2
    • Microsoft ibSs75
      If you get paid that much, you are expected to deliver. Whether it is 9-5 or 8-10 is up to the persons ability to drive impact proportional to the salary.

      Working a lot is not a proxy for seriousness or impact.
      Jan 18
    • Microsoft 0xdeadbeet
      Yeah I guess if you’re really good you can phone it in and work 8-5 and meet partner expectations. Or you hire in at that level and only give half AF. or you’ve been at level for a while. What I’ve observed is being competitive at principal and up takes a lot of commitment.

      OP said fb was having negative impact on family. I’m saying understand what you’re signing up for. They don’t just give $$$ like that away at msft. If you love what you’re doing great. If you don’t you’ll be miserable with a fat paycheck.
      Jan 18
  • Microsoft Micr0s0ft
    L67+
    Jan 18 3
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      Thanks. What are median base and target /max for bonus and yearly refreshers at those levels?
      Jan 18
    • Microsoft ibSs75
      Target is 475 assuming a base median of 220 (I believe 240 was a high target base). Upper bound: 700k..very very rare. More likely 530-600 range for top performers (but to realize that YoY you need to nail that at least 4 years in a row due to the vesting schedule)

      More likely scenario: 500 for 67
      Jan 18
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      Thank you @ibSs75
      Jan 19
  • Morgan Stanley ninja007
    I may be wrong - and apologies that this is tangential to OP’s question, but looking at all these answers it seems like a 350TC is relatively easy and fast to get to in tech.

    600-800 seems much harder than what I can see in banking tech if you’re good.
    Jan 18 5
    • Microsoft ibSs75
      My understanding is those are NY salaries and people who work in the quant/algorithmic trading areas. Those are not considered “common”
      Jan 22
    • Morgan Stanley ninja007
      Not necessarily - even just climbing the ladder - a newly minted MD in tech will get that , running a 80 people team. But yeah - it’s not common. You still have to beat thousands to get that.
      Jan 23
    • Microsoft ibSs75
      Running an 80 people team in FAANG will net you 700k “at least”...so your assessment of finance vs tech should be that they are equivalent
      Jan 25
    • Morgan Stanley ninja007
      @ibSs75 - I believe I need to get L7 and higher offers and evaluate. I believe my data points are limited due to lower position offers/exposure.

      Good to know.
      Jan 25
    • Morgan Stanley ninja007
      Also - a bit harder for big tech here as senior roles are few and far between at non-HQ locations.
      Jan 25
  • Capital One kdtn
    OP, why are you considering leaving FB?
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      Multiple ones, mainly relate to aspects of company culture as well as negative impact on family life.
      Jan 18
    • Capital One kdtn
      Thanks. Do you think it is limited to your team/org or is it prevalent across the office? I ask as I am in the hiring process.
      Jan 18
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      I think it's definitely common in product orgs. Not sure about infra.
      Jan 18
    • Capital One kdtn
      Thanks for the insights. Good luck!
      Jan 18
  • Microsoft askmehow
    500-600 used to be possible at L67 at least when the stock was appreciating.

    You’d have to be an industry luminary to get in at these levels as an IC, and you’d be competing against directors at the same level for impact. Good luck.
    Jan 18 0
  • Partner level. That’s very rare. Need a lot of luck and brilliant leadership to get there.
    Jan 18 0
  • Microsoft lalalond
    You gotta make a partner level.
    Jan 18 0
  • Google fre t
    Upper 67
    Jan 18 0
  • Microsoft / Finance Dunph
    68+
    Jan 18 0
  • New lousy
    Check this 👉 http://levels.fyi
    Jan 19 0
  • Facebook / Eng sodajr
    CEO
    Jan 18 0
  • Dropbox krinjk
    What's your level at FB? At Dropbox 500k maps to M2, or IC5.
    Jan 19 0
  • VMware / Product lRQQ72
    Or 70
    Jan 18 0
  • Microsoft Microsofti
    what is your level at Facebook?
    Jan 18 0

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