Got an LinkedIn offer but it’s a senior title. I have like 8 years experience and have a lead title in Salesforce. Should I take the offer?
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- Amazon / EngFoodsA title and $5 will get you a cup of coffee. I think there are a lot of more important considerations
- I was having a convo about titles once with a friend and he said something that stuck in my head and made so much sense:
“Titles are meaningless. If you care about comp, then compare the comps, don’t compare titles. If you care about responsibility and scope of work, then you can always increase your scope even at lower levels.”
Total compensation for Sr at LinkedIn can go up to $300k. I’m pretty sure LMTS is no where near $300k at sales force.
- I’ve said this about the word “lead” but architect is a role not a title. Depending on where you interview, their HR and Recruiting already know what the equivalent levels are. Even with people that came from startups it’s pretty easy to asses the level of technical capability a person has based on interviewing.
- Lead isn’t a title. It’s a role. Lots of engineers with Sr titles are leads. What title did you expect to get? What does it matter? If you have 8 years experience and think you deserve Staff did you ask the recruiter why you were downleveled? What were your interview results like?
- At Salesforce lead is a title higher than senior. A Salesforce lead to LinkedIn senior sounds about right, though it would be higher end senior. That said there are exceptions and some Salesforce leads maybe able to crack staff. Op take the offer if it's at least 20% hike in tc.
- Title matters if you are on Engineering management track otherwise who cares. For example if you are in leadership position in some company (Manager / Director title) then it’s more easier for you to target VP or Director roles in other companies. If you don’t have the title and experience then it’s difficult to become one. Please note TC for leadership roles will always be higher (if not way higher) in most companies compared to mere Engineering roles (including FANGs)Oct 25, 20181
- LinkedIn XD duckWith 8 yrs experience at salesforce, I would not take a title lower than staff from LinkedIn. Recruiters may say you are offered high end sr and can expect a promotion sooner than other sr. But a lot of things (bad manager, wrong project, toxic teammates) can happen when you try to prove your value in a new environment.
- LinkedIn Zeiwkf5I sit on an HC. Your # of years is barely a factor when we decide level. What is important is the feedback. If you’re good you will be promoted quickly. If you aren’t good you will stay senior. Staff requires a lot of soft skills which lots of people with lots of years of experience do not have.
- I worked at both google and linkedin. Not once have I seen an MTS get L4 at google. In fact, I have seen a couple SMTS getting L3 at google, though sometimes they get L4.
I have seen a dozen people move between Li and G. Senior => L4 and L4 => Senior. Some Seniors also get L3 at Google but that’s not common.
Now, what is your basis for claiming that Senior at Li is != Google L4?Mar 18, 20180
- Airbnb / Eng∞timehorizLMTS is a VERY inflated title. PMTS would possibly map to staff-level, but not LMTS
- Both are a bit inflated. Lmts is 3 promotions from entry level at Salesforce. Staff is 2 promotions from entry level at LI. Promotions at LI are harder from what I know. Senior band is quite broad, some people with 1-2 year experience and others with 10. That said lmts->high band senior seems right