LinkedIn offer

Salesforce Kgbda
Mar 17, 2018 55 Comments

Got an LinkedIn offer but it’s a senior title. I have like 8 years experience and have a lead title in Salesforce. Should I take the offer?

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  • Amazon / EngFoods
    A title and $5 will get you a cup of coffee. I think there are a lot of more important considerations
    Mar 17, 20180
  • LinkedIn PlumpyNut
    A whole 8 years, wow, you’re ready for retirement
    Mar 17, 20186
    • Amazon Jeff-full
      Lol
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce Kgbda
      OP
      Yeah wish I could.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Amazon / EngvqXq75
      No, like, 8 years, actually.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn PlumpyNut
      If you wish you could retire already then you’re a shit potential hire with lack of passion for your profession
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Uber Fight
      Seems like linkedin has already been retired
      Mar 24, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Other
      hattorihan

      LinkedInOther

      BIO
      As your leader, I encourage you from time to time, and always in a respectful manner, to question my logic
      hattorihanmore
      Says the uber Guy.
      Mar 28, 2018
  • Cisco qwertyasd
    How does the package look as compared to your current compensation?
    Mar 17, 201810
    • Salesforce Kgbda
      OP
      It’s much better since Salesforce doesn’t give you stocks.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce sandals
      How much better? I'm thinking of jumping ship as well due to compensation.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce Kgbda
      OP
      Wanna pm me?
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce M@rcBenion
      I am thinking of moving out due to compensation too. Do you work in engineering?
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce Kgbda
      OP
      Yes
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce ohana.lol
      Been looking at LI too.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn JROD80
      PM if you need a referral, I worked at Salesforce before, good company but yes the pay is shit, as for the position I took a senior with over 7 years if experience. If anything easier to get promoted
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Salesforce zzdN51
      i m looking to move as well
      Mar 21, 2018
    • Salesforce ms mueller
      Why doesn’t you share your numbers
      Mar 23, 2018
    • Qualcomm Tucks
      Why you don’t share
      Oct 25, 2018
  • LinkedIn / EngTaFP34
    I was having a convo about titles once with a friend and he said something that stuck in my head and made so much sense:

    “Titles are meaningless. If you care about comp, then compare the comps, don’t compare titles. If you care about responsibility and scope of work, then you can always increase your scope even at lower levels.”

    Total compensation for Sr at LinkedIn can go up to $300k. I’m pretty sure LMTS is no where near $300k at sales force.
    Mar 17, 201810
    • New zgBx36
      I disagree. If they were a lead and then sr then tries to apply for lead the company will naturally ask why did you step down from a leadership role. TC is a reason but it coukd raise suspicion when interviewing
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn / EngTaFP34
      If someone possesses the skills of a lead, they should be able to crack the interview for the right level. Even if down leveled during interview, they can get promoted quickly by demonstrating their leadership skills.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • New zgBx36
      That is true barring politics that would prevent their promotion
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn rookboom
      @new so what about companies like FB that don’t externalize job titles and everyone is just Software Engineer?
      Mar 17, 2018
    • New zgBx36
      Rookboom there are exceptions but the majority have levels. This is especially true if we are talking about architect vs lead vs sr. You'll have to jump through more hoops to prove the title you're apolying for if you seemingly took a step back
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn rookboom
      I’ve said this about the word “lead” but architect is a role not a title. Depending on where you interview, their HR and Recruiting already know what the equivalent levels are. Even with people that came from startups it’s pretty easy to asses the level of technical capability a person has based on interviewing.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • New zgBx36
      Lead is a role too. People count on you to design wide solutions and are supposed to be the best implementor of agreed solutions
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Uber Fight
      This is the most idiotic thing i ever heard. The comp bands within a company are set in place to discourage overpaying someone at all levels. If you are just increasing your scope at lower levels you are giving your employer free labor.
      Mar 24, 2018
    • Salesforce / EngUSKFODRCEH
      Generally speaking you need to be doing the job (scope and accomplishments) before getting the promotion. At least in my experience.
      Mar 31, 2018
    • Fitbit PcnD08
      I got 300k offer as lmts at salesforce
      Sep 2, 2018
  • LinkedIn rookboom
    Lead isn’t a title. It’s a role. Lots of engineers with Sr titles are leads. What title did you expect to get? What does it matter? If you have 8 years experience and think you deserve Staff did you ask the recruiter why you were downleveled? What were your interview results like?
    Mar 17, 20187
    • Google tcCd20
      At Salesforce lead is a title higher than senior. A Salesforce lead to LinkedIn senior sounds about right, though it would be higher end senior. That said there are exceptions and some Salesforce leads maybe able to crack staff. Op take the offer if it's at least 20% hike in tc.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn rookboom
      Ah. Thanks Google for the clarification.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Uber iJnJ58
      But L sr is not really sr it's T4.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Google tcCd20
      Depends what yardstick you use. Google/fb senior is level 5. Senior at LinkedIn is l4 at Google. Both being one promo out of college, though LinkedIn senior is easier to get than level 4 at Google based on what I hear and read
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Uber iJnJ58
      Google T5 is TWO promos out of college unless PHD.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Google tcCd20
      Yep. Assuming promo is same difficulty then l5 Google==staff LinkedIn.
      Mar 17, 2018
    • Qualcomm Tucks
      Title matters if you are on Engineering management track otherwise who cares. For example if you are in leadership position in some company (Manager / Director title) then it’s more easier for you to target VP or Director roles in other companies. If you don’t have the title and experience then it’s difficult to become one. Please note TC for leadership roles will always be higher (if not way higher) in most companies compared to mere Engineering roles (including FANGs)
      Oct 25, 2018
  • LinkedIn XD duck
    With 8 yrs experience at salesforce, I would not take a title lower than staff from LinkedIn. Recruiters may say you are offered high end sr and can expect a promotion sooner than other sr. But a lot of things (bad manager, wrong project, toxic teammates) can happen when you try to prove your value in a new environment.
    Mar 17, 20182
    • LinkedIn PlumpyNut
      You’re full of shit
      Mar 17, 2018
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      I sit on an HC. Your # of years is barely a factor when we decide level. What is important is the feedback. If you’re good you will be promoted quickly. If you aren’t good you will stay senior. Staff requires a lot of soft skills which lots of people with lots of years of experience do not have.
      Mar 17, 2018
  • Blackbaud / Other
    dogooder

    BlackbaudOther

    PRE
    Microsoft
    dogoodermore
    Titles are not consistent across industry at all. Focus on what the role is accountable for and the total compensation (pay, bonus, stock, time off,trading etc) and don't sweat the title at all. Some of companies don't ever use Lead.
    Mar 17, 20180
  • Salesforce FwTd07
    According to levels.fyi SFDC lead is equivalent to LI senior staff
    Mar 18, 20183
    • LinkedIn / EngTaFP34
      SalesForce levels aren’t accurate in that tool. Theres no way MTS is equivalent to Google L4.
      Mar 18, 2018
    • Salesforce ohana.lol
      Agreed.. levels is off.. no way a Senior at LI is a Google L4
      Mar 18, 2018
    • LinkedIn / EngTaFP34
      I worked at both google and linkedin. Not once have I seen an MTS get L4 at google. In fact, I have seen a couple SMTS getting L3 at google, though sometimes they get L4.

      I have seen a dozen people move between Li and G. Senior => L4 and L4 => Senior. Some Seniors also get L3 at Google but that’s not common.

      Now, what is your basis for claiming that Senior at Li is != Google L4?
      Mar 18, 2018
  • Airbnb / Eng∞timehoriz
    LMTS is a VERY inflated title. PMTS would possibly map to staff-level, but not LMTS
    Mar 17, 20181
    • Google tcCd20
      Both are a bit inflated. Lmts is 3 promotions from entry level at Salesforce. Staff is 2 promotions from entry level at LI. Promotions at LI are harder from what I know. Senior band is quite broad, some people with 1-2 year experience and others with 10. That said lmts->high band senior seems right
      Mar 17, 2018
  • Uber Fcgfr54
    Join Uber. Salesforce senior are getting senior here. You will definitely get staff.
    Aug 23, 20180
  • PayPal Ymnv34
    It depends on how much base + signon + stock linkedin offered?
    Mar 18, 20180
  • LinkedIn oakR25
    Years of experience is not the only reason to be hired as a staff engineer at LinkedIn. The interview performance matters. There is higher expectations for staff engineer.
    Mar 17, 20180
  • Salesforce Kgbda
    OP
    It’s not like no stocks at all but it’s like 10k a year and no refresh every year.
    Mar 17, 20180
  • Pandora liferocks
    I am also expecting offer for senior software engineer from LinkedIn. What numbers do yiu get?
    Mar 18, 20180
  • Uber gfVr37
    Tell your offer range so we can give better suggesstions also which team is this for ?
    Mar 17, 20180
  • New zgBx36
    Why didnt you get stock as lmts? I know a ltms who got more stock than his base
    Mar 17, 20180

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