LinkedIn versus Microsoft for new grad?

Microsoft aodo
Sep 14 19 Comments

I'm interested in joining LinkedIn as a new grad, but reading on Blind, it seems that their new grad TC is similar to Microsoft's

- LinkedIn :
125k base, 175k stocks and 20k signing in Cali (from a 2019 post on blind)
- Msft :
110k base, 150k stocks and 50k signing in Washington State (my current msft offer)

Is there any hidden pros that I'm not aware of? Faster promo? Better refreshers?

Thanks!

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  • LinkedIn fprjdifek
    If you care about comp Microsoft is not the place to be, your comp won't grow much.

    At a little over 4 yrs of exp and a senior at LinkedIn my comp is around 320k. Looking at levels.fyi to get the same comp you need to be L64 or L65, which really isn't feasible in 4 yrs. I should also be getting Staff in the next 6 months and my comp should be closer to 400k at that point. LinkedIn is easily the better choice for comp. But they said bay area is more expensive and you have no income tax in Washington. So it depends what you're looking for.
    Sep 14 4
    • LinkedIn fprjdifek
      I'll add that refreshers at Microsoft are kinda crap which is why the comp doesn't grow that much.
      Sep 14
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      Thanks! Mind if I ask how refreshers work at LinkedIn? I read that yearly stock refreshers are not guaranteed
      Sep 14
    • LinkedIn fprjdifek
      Indeed they are not guaranteed. But if you're a high performer you'll get them. If you're getting exceeds at SWE I'd say you might get like 50-60k. You'll get 100k at promo to senior. If you're getting exceeds at senior you can probably expect between 70-80k. Staff promo grants are 200k usually, and exceeds at staff probably gets like 100k refresher.

      The main thing is that if you're getting meet expectations then you might get 0 refresh. And also if your comp is high for your title then you might get less even if you're getting exceeds.

      Microsoft has targets for refreshers but you'll see that they are tiny, like 15-20k a year for a high performing L61/62. Your only bet for trying to grow your comp is getting an SSA (special stock award?) grant, and those are not well understood. So even if LinkedIn refreshers aren't consistent you will still be way ahead of Microsoft.
      Sep 14
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      Thanks for the great insights! I'm convinced now. LinkedIn is miles ahead of Microsoft for high performers!
      Sep 14
  • Amazon []{}()
    Slightly better reputation b/c people don’t realize it’s owned by Microsoft
    Sep 14 2
    • LinkedIn brooklin
      How is that a better reputation?
      Sep 14
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      How does the extra reputation translate irl? Is it worth an extra 10% of state tax?
      Sep 14
  • Microsoft
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    I wouldn’t agree that LinkedIn is “miles ahead of Microsoft” for high performers, unless you’re strictly talking about comp. If you want TC, then LinkedIn. If you want a wide variety of opportunities across a wide variety of products, Microsoft. There’s probably more long-term career growth potential at Microsoft. I personally would probably go with LinkedIn simply because it’s in SF and the weather is a bit better. Keep in mind SF is much much more expensive than Seattle.
    Sep 15 5
    • LinkedIn / Eng persi
      We have offices in cheaper areas than, Sunnyvale/Mountain View (HQ), NYC, and small ones in Omaha and Carpinteria
      Sep 15
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      Would you mind elaborating on the long-term career growth at Microsoft?

      My org at Microsoft seems to be slow on career growth. 6-7 years to senior from new grad and 15 years to high principal are the norms.

      It seems LinkedIn allows for a much faster progression pace. 1-2 year to senior band according to Blind and 4-7 years to staff.
      Sep 15
    • LinkedIn / Eng persi
      Faster in some orgs, slower in others. 4 year staff engineer is pretty hard, unless you are very good. Infra teams in general seem to be a bit slower with promotions, just because it takes longer to ramp up to the point where you can make meaningful contributions and get visibility. In the end, it all still depends on you.

      EDIT: forgot to mention, there are different review schedules between orgs (e.g. some orgs does reviews biannually, others do every quarter, etc.), which can also contribute to progression time
      Sep 15
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      Thanks, that makes sense. Any recommendation on good orgs for growth, impact and learning?
      Sep 15
    • LinkedIn / Eng persi
      Can't give too much insight on which orgs promote fast, since I don't know much about orgs other than my own, sorry. Just a note, though, the orgs you can join will be determined by which track you interview for (applications vs. systems and infrastructure).
      Sep 15
  • Apple gbio14
    how did you get 150k stock for MS? i thought 120k was the max
    Sep 18 2
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      Max stock for MS is whatever stock value is written on your Fb offer :P I've seen 200k+

      Typically, 150k is the max without competing offer for returning interns. 175k is the max with competing offers. Anything above that will require CVP approval
      Sep 18
    • Apple gbio14
      ah so you are returning, i’m an ex intern and i got the 120. you have that counter offer yet?
      Sep 18
  • Microsoft / Eng bye bye
    Go to LinkedIn. Lot of politics in Microsoft.
    Sep 14 1
    • Microsoft aodo
      OP
      True, good point. I do have good people skills tho
      Sep 14