Linkedin vs Pinterest offer eval

Cloudera gdAl02
Dec 11, 2018 44 Comments

base, bonus, stock, sign-on
Linkedin 180k, 10%, 400k, 55k, senior level (equivalent to l4 at other companies so please stop discussing this particular matter)
Pinterest 163k, 0%, 560k, 40k, (l4, sde2, whatever)
YOE is somewhere between 0 and 5 years. Which is better? Teams are equally interesting IMO.

Pinterest pros on my mind:
upside potential (needs discussion)
probably faster promotion (needs discussion)
Cons:
pinterest offers usually beat public companies by 5-10%. Mine doesn't. Probably linkedin needs me more
My main concern about them is that their ADs revenue is growing but product maybe not so much so it's not a super cool pre-ipo IMO, not sure if it's worth the risk.

linkedin pros on my mind:
cash
way better benefits (50% 401k match, all kinds of perks)

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TOP 44 Comments
  • PayPal / Eng
    OnnC18

    PayPal Eng

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    Intel
    OnnC18more
    Dude everything whatever you mentioned is just a lie . Nobody gets Senior at Linkedin first for 1.5 yrs experience and on top of that you are getting high senior salary . Laugh at your self and get off blind .
    Dec 12, 2018 3
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Lol.. a google L4 or fb E4 with 1.5 YOE would get senior at LinkedIn tho
      Dec 12, 2018
    • PayPal / Eng
      OnnC18

      PayPal Eng

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      Intel
      OnnC18more
      People get E4 at Facebook in 1-1.5 yrs . That doesn’t mean they Senior Software Engineer .
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      LinkedIn senior = Facebook E4. LinkedIn has title inflation
      Dec 12, 2018
  • New / Eng MSFT_fte
    I'd probably go to pinterest for the upside.
    Dec 12, 2018 3
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      Thank you for the first on-topic advice in this thread.
      Dec 12, 2018
    • New / Eng MSFT_fte
      Btw, phd or masters?
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      Masters
      Dec 12, 2018
  • New monomo
    What are the tc's really?
    How are you a senior with a meagre 1.5 yoe?
    Dec 11, 2018 2
    • Twitter Waco
      LinkedIn titles are inflated as fuk: see levels.fyi
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Leanplum Boolsak
      Seems like TC is inflated as fuck too
      Dec 11, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng Waygu 🐮🥩
    1.5 year at 180k base as “senior”. WTH?
    Dec 11, 2018 6
    • Uber qcdo81
      There’s no way this is real.
      Dec 11, 2018
    • New monomo
      Sde2 IS Senior.
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Waygu 🐮🥩
      I don’t care much about “senior” but 180k base @ 1.5 years.... seeesh.
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Splunk / Eng Jencksa
      Got same base at splunk w/ 1.5 yoe. It is quite commom now it seems.
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng Waygu 🐮🥩
      Assuming this is real, I feel there might be something information missing. Did you literally just graduate from college 1.5 years ago. Assuming the standard, enter college at 18 and graduate in 5 years. 23+1.5 years. You are offered a 180k base at age 24.5 with 1.5 years of industry experience. What school did you graduate from? Did you win a lot of awards or accomplish something that was popularly recognized? Was that 1.5 years doing something truly amazing like create a millionaire dollar business. I don’t get it...
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      Nothing like that. Just performed well in the interview and negotiated a little bit. Will be 24 soon.
      Dec 12, 2018
  • Apple / Eng cho Chang
    How did u get L4 offers with 1.5 YOE?
    Dec 12, 2018 0
  • Microsoft UMbR31
    15 yoe or 1.5 ?
    Dec 11, 2018 2
    • Microsoft UMbR31
      Yeah cuz I was wondering if you were a troll or bad at typing.
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      I edited yoe out hoping for a more constructive discussion.
      Dec 12, 2018
  • BioFire Diagnostics / Eng dRWv10
    Are those numbers pre-negotiation?
    Dec 11, 2018 3
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      After
      Dec 11, 2018
    • BioFire Diagnostics / Eng dRWv10
      A friend recently got an L3 offer (CMU masters new grad) where base salary was 150, so your base sounds good. Can't speak to any of the other numbers. Would you mind posting pre negotiation Pinterest numbers?
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      155k base, 500k stock pre-negotiation. 150k base for non-PHD is unheard of. Congratulations to you friend.
      Dec 11, 2018
  • Tesla / Other SidhUheh
    300k plus with 1.5 yoe 🤒?
    Dec 11, 2018 0
  • Wish / Eng rocksolid
    I think it is an okay tc on blind
    Dec 11, 2018 0
  • Pinterest UJiH62
    LinkedIn
    Dec 12, 2018 4
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      why? I'd really appreciate your insight.
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Pinterest UJiH62
      Just say in terms of money... LinkedIn has solid TC with higher base. Who knows what Pinterest stock will look like in case it IPOs
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      Yeah that makes sense. I can live with the lnkd TC and the career growth at Pinterest is not obviously better so I guess risk / potential isn't a priority
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Pinterest UJiH62
      Exactly, unless you ask much more from Pinterest or you have strong faith in us
      Dec 12, 2018
  • LinkedIn / Eng WeffJeinr
    LinkedIn has solid business and given YOE and title I assume application track. So I’d still recommend LinkedIn.

    Technology is a bit old if you don’t mind, and engineering culture is old as well (people don’t care about DevOps, SRE heavy and they deal with whatever shit dev creates), tooling sucks and it do affect productivity.

    It has all those big company shit (politics, unfairness, etc) you will see in any big company
    Dec 15, 2018 3
    • LinkedIn / Eng WeffJeinr
      One more data point to you - I’m moving to Pin, similar package to you. It’s just with the caveats I pointed out to you, I cannot make enough leverage in the area I work on, and it worth the trade off (for me) of LinkedIn’s cash and solid business
      Dec 15, 2018
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      Thank you for the insight. It's infra track actually
      Dec 15, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng WeffJeinr
      Op, PM me if you are willing to share pin / LinkedIn teams I might have more data points to share
      Dec 15, 2018
  • Amazon pfjendir
    Don't think pinterest has refreshers
    Dec 12, 2018 2
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      They do. Not sure if it's nicer than lnkd
      Dec 12, 2018
    • Square / Eng Zp49bn
      I heard their refreshers got better. Both number and schedule.
      Dec 13, 2018
  • LinkedIn
    @fb

    LinkedIn

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    Goldman Sachs
    @fbmore
    300k for 1.5 yoe??? I think you are the highest paid 1.5 yoe in the company.
    Dec 12, 2018 1
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      I agree it's on the higher end based on the internet. What would you say to these two offers? Is Linkedin refresher bad as some would suggest? Is staff promotion more difficult than, say FB e5 promotion?
      Dec 12, 2018
  • Airbnb Xkv
    How are refreshers at LinkedIn?
    Dec 12, 2018 1
    • Cloudera gdAl02
      OP
      I heard it's lower than FANG, airbnb, etc. Not sure about pinterest.
      (Airbnb l4 target refresher if I remember correctly is 92k which is way above market average. Too sad I can't get an interview for level 2)
      Dec 12, 2018

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