SeattleJun 25, 2018
AmazonKeepThisTx

Looking for examples of Leadership Principles gone wild

Current and former Amazonians: Have you been discriminated against by a manager and been harmed by that discrimination (passed over for promotion, denied transfer, placed on LE, or Pivot)? If you’ve been discriminated against and the only justification was not because you failed an essential job duty, but because of a “Leadership Principle,” I would love to hear your story. (Trolls and LP Kool-Aid drinkers need not reply).

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Amazon FireBox Jun 25, 2018

Not in actual job, but I have gotten more than one interview feedback that I was too Amazonian. They used the word so negatively (aggressive, lack of empathy and teamwork) that I ended up not getting the final offer.

Amazon nCk Jun 25, 2018

This.

Amazon fHQu87 Jun 25, 2018

Earns Trust. The most weaponized LP at Amazon. When you get a dev list that cannot cite a single design or delivery miss, operational issue, or even lost trust with customers, stakeholders, team members and peers, but only cites that you “failed to earn trust of management,” and provides no SBI feedback, you can rest assured that you fell victim to the Peter Principle.

Amazon 😼 Jun 25, 2018

Yep, this one. And there is no way to provide any data points. I saw this happening to my fellow Amazonians, an ugly move.

Amazon nCk Jun 25, 2018

My only area for improvement for the past few years now.

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SqTi60 Jun 25, 2018

Vice President, Worldwide Public Sector, drunk and dancing on top of tables at reinvent in Vegas. — female

DigitalGlobe GLBS16 Jun 25, 2018

To be fair it was a foam party.

Salesforce Vlad Putin Jun 25, 2018

Female or male?

Amazon Hot==dog Jun 25, 2018

I’ve seen it with those shitty little L6 MBAs desperate to get promoted and assert their superiority over their former classmates. You never know where they’ll go wild. I dealt with one who was honing her “Hire and Develop” by trying to require regular 1:1’s with anyone she worked with, and who asked to see the Forte feedback from people on different teams. And to echo the point about Earns Trust, I see that lamely thrown around a lot too. Often it’s stated as “we’re losing trust” because of some frivolous nonsense.

Amazon boopity Jun 26, 2018

My husband worked super long hours (as did a lot of his team) because they were understaffed, and his manager said they might put him on pivot for “not being frugal with his hours”. So stupid. He quit almost immediately and had a job somewhere else within a couple weeks, and he’s much happier now and working normal hours.