Looking for feedbacks for my startup doing job referrals.

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leele

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An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
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Nov 13, 2017 24 Comments

I'm trying to build a start-up using A.I to recommend the most qualified candidates to the employees for referral. So that they can get referral bonus and I'll take a cut from there.

It'll be great to have inputs from friends here working in amazon/google/facebook/linkedin/apple,etc..

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  • GlobalLogic Hopper13
    Very creative ... but will have to be always stealth mode
    Nov 13, 2017 4
    • Amazon / Eng
      leele

      Amazon Eng

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      An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
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      OP
      Can you elaborate a bit
      More, my friend ? Thanks
      Nov 13, 2017
    • GlobalLogic Hopper13
      Well in a way this is unethical ... referrals are meant to be for people you have worked with and you believe in
      Nov 13, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng
      leele

      Amazon Eng

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      An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
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      OP
      End of the day, it helps company find the most qualified candidates, cheapest source of searching candidates. Referral is just a way for a candidate to get in front of hiring team, not a job offer. Not an immediate hire.It'll all
      A win-win-win-win for all- candidate get job- employee get bonus-
      Company found talents-I'm
      Happy for success and hope so since long way to go :)
      Nov 14, 2017
    • GlobalLogic Hopper13
      Right ... but still its unethical eod :) ... if you could change your pitch though ... ie something like AI based staffing company (and have good marketing strategy to back it up) ... you can do wonders
      Nov 14, 2017
  • Northrop Grumman / Eng
    lrql41

    Northrop Grumman Eng

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    lrql41more
    We’ve had a couple people get fired when they were caught essentially running a recruiting “business” as a side gig through LinkedIn. It can be risky for employees to hunt for referrals.
    Nov 14, 2017 5
    • Microsoft wooo
      +1
      Nov 14, 2017
    • Amazon / Eng
      leele

      Amazon Eng

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      An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
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      Is there a conflict interest ? I dont understand why unless the employee is not allowed to take a second job. it depends on different company's procedure...

      Is
      Nov 14, 2017
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng
      lrql41

      Northrop Grumman Eng

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      I think the problem is that you’re kind of claiming to represent the company in an official capacity, when in fact you do not. Also could be seen as an abuse of the referral system to just crawl LinkedIn and find random people you don’t know to refer.
      Nov 14, 2017
    • Amazon DankMatta
      What if the people themselves message you on linkedin asking to be referred. Would that be considered as abuse of referral system again ?
      Nov 14, 2017
    • New / Mktg
      skybound

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      Do you know them DankMatra or met them
      once at a networking event? If you know multiple people that would be a good fit for the position then it doesn't matter through what means they contact you.
      Nov 15, 2017
  • Snapchat ellewoods
    Side note: are you a native Chinese speaker? I've noticed a common "mistake" is to use plural for nouns like feedback. I always wondered if in Chinese it's plural.
    Nov 14, 2017 3
    • Amazon / Eng
      Swisquirl

      Amazon Eng

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      An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
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      My bad ! I'm not a chinese :)
      Nov 14, 2017
    • Uber iamdara
      Feedback is a non-countable noun. But there are instances when non-countable nouns can be thought of as countable nouns. Someone pointed out (I think it was Bob Hale on the APS forum) that coffee is a non-countable noun, yet we often treat it as a countable noun. We may order "three coffees" at a restaurant, meaning three cups of coffee. Likewise, we order fries ("chips" to Brits), when we mean an order of fries. When we order "three fries," we don't want just three fries, but three orders of fries. If you're a waitress or waiter and get an order for two hamburgers, three chicken sandwiches, and five orders of fries, you might place the order as "two burgers, three chickens, and five fries." I don't think anyone would think you really wanted three chickens, but rather three chicken sandwiches. If you had a survey and received received 1000 responses, I think you could legitimately refer to them as 1000 instances of feedback or 1000 feedbacks. I don't particularly like "feedbacks," but I can't really fault it, either. If you can't accept "feedbacks," then you should never order "a coffee." Order a cup of coffee, instead.
      Nov 14, 2017
    • Uber iamdara
      Copied from a forum. Definitely not just cultural usage
      Nov 14, 2017
  • Ebates / Eng Jambajuice
    I had kind of the same idea, but was thinking of engineers doing quick interviews before referring candidates. There is no one better than engineers to know what type of teammates they would like.
    Nov 13, 2017 3
  • New / Mktg
    skybound

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    That's a very limited and niche concept using an expensive technology. The costs will eventually go down but given current population growth and increase in college educated job seekers I only see this as a side business or one person shop.

    There are only a handful of companies that pay decent money for employee referrals so target market is limited. If people want to actively make money thru the referral system and don't give a crap about who gets hired they can search LI on their own fairly easily. Also, there are hundreds of job boards, employment firms, and headhunters submitting names at the same time. So even if submitted there might not be a payout.

    How will you get paid? The referral money doesn't go to you so how will you know someone gets hired. Will you charge a fee and if so who pays? Will you use ads?

    Not trying to destroy your entrepreneurial spirit but would recommend thinking this thru further. Have you talked with HR people and hiring managers to find out what their challenges are? Much better business model selling a solution to a known problem rather than one trying to take advantage of a system loophole that could be closed at anytime.
    Nov 15, 2017 0
  • Microsoft wooo
    Not sure that’s a huge problem to get interviewed by this companies
    Nov 13, 2017 2
    • Amazon / Eng
      leele

      Amazon Eng

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      An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
      leelemore
      OP
      It may be easy for talents, not talented passive job seekers or who doesn't have network. What do you think ?
      Nov 13, 2017
    • Microsoft wooo
      I think this guys connect everyone on Li from time to time. Companies like triplebyte give much more.
      Nov 14, 2017
  • Amazon / Eng
    Swisquirl

    Amazon Eng

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    An entrepreneur with a data scientist profession in Amazon. Love to learn more from talented folks in tech industry. U r all my models !
    Swisquirlmore
    I see referral is one of the best channels for hiring as it increases employment retention. I think this startup can aim to take a cut (20% similar to uber model) from the referral fee in big tech companies. And do a business model with monthly subscription ($500 per position- a fee monthly) for small tech / mid size compamnies in order for these companies to do a job posting or just refer qualified candidates to their employees (maybe 20-30 good resumes monthly per position). It's just unfortunate for those who don't get bonus due to unforeseen happening. Normally, if you refer qualified candidates, you will get bonus in most tech companies as I know. Maybe the candidate needs to notify this startup that he/she gets job via this platform and get a reward such as a gift card by notifying them. Then employee who gets bonus will share a commission to this platform. Just a piece of thought.
    Nov 15, 2017 0

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