Lowballed by Google(EDIT: Google pays up)

New siccboi
Aug 2 24 Comments

EDIT : Updated communication from Google; see bottom edit
Location : India
YoE : 3
Offer : L4, 50k USD(35L INR)
Competing : Microsoft L61, ~60k(42L INR)(65k/45L including 10% perf+reloc)

Current : 50k(43k cash+ options; series H startup).
This is a core data science engineering team that I'm really beginning to like.

I had read on Blind that Google India L4 range is 72-108k so this had made me hopeful of receiving an offer of at least 72k. Moreover recruiter had said even at L3 he would try to match my Microsoft offer. Although I'm very pumped about L4(was a wild expectation from my side), the number seems just absurd. I know of a friend getting ~65 at L3 and 2.5YoE.

Advice?
L4 expectations at L3 comp?
I intend to spend several years at the next place I join; would my current offer be a strong predictor of my final comp several appraisals later? i.e., if some component of this offer is negotiation skills, would this continue to exert effect several appraisals later?
Worth joining Google if it's a really core team?
Should I try to get more offers to convince G to go up?

EDIT:
Google did go upto Microsoft TC! Thank you Blind! I could possibly have interviewed more overseas and gotten them to go higher, but I already more than doubled my TC in <3 weeks and don't think I could deal with the impostor syndrome

Final numbers for all you good folks
Base : 27.5L
Target Bonus : 4L(15%)
Equity : 70k USD/4y, first year - 12L
Signon - 2L
PF - 1.3L

Final first year cash - ~47L(66k USD)

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TOP 24 Comments
  • Sumo Logic BrintPog
    wanted to know how the interview process for google L4 was like. Did it consist of system design interviews?
    Aug 5 1
    • New siccboi
      OP
      L3 and L4 have the same interview process; same questions etc. Your performance in them on some metrics determines whether you have L4 capabilities.
      In the onsite, you have 1 interview on Googleyness and Leadership, and 4 technical interviews. You get to choose if the split is all 4 algo or 3 algo and 1 design. It's not mandatory to choose the latter split to be considered for L4 position. You can find more info on Blind itself if you search "Google L4 interview"
      Aug 5
  • Google burnItDown
    Is this the first set of numbers?
    Google generally offers a ‘standard’ package first. Then you show them your offers and negotiate on it.

    Send a screenshot of your Microsoft offer and ask them to revise the numbers. I’m pretty sure it will happen.

    What’s the base and stocks breakdown that’s being offered?

    And congratulations on the offer :)
    Aug 2 9
    • Microsoft oXJQ15
      Microsoft can respond to Google offer
      Aug 2
    • New siccboi
      OP
      Thank you burnItDown, Google did go up; updated the post :)
      Aug 4
    • Microsoft oXJQ15
      Share new offer
      Aug 4
    • Google burnItDown
      Great! Congratulations on the new offer!
      I hope you’re taking it up :)
      Aug 5
    • New siccboi
      OP
      @Microsoft updated post
      @Google shall be joining :)
      Aug 5
  • Amazon
    knot111

    Amazon

    PRE
    Microsoft, Facebook
    knot111more
    Mind sharing the split for Microsoft ?
    Aug 2 8
    • Amazon
      knot111

      Amazon

      PRE
      Microsoft, Facebook
      knot111more
      Nice. Congratulations!
      Aug 2
    • Google burnItDown
      Crazy numbers for L61/62 for sure!
      Until a year ago, L61s got around 35k USD over 4 years tops. L62s got around 50k USD over 4 years tops.

      Crazy revisions going on now.
      Aug 2
    • Microsoft oXJQ15
      @burnItDown A year ago5i knew 3 L62 guys who got stocks 70k-80k
      Aug 2
    • Qualcomm / Eng qcomSam
      Is that 30 lacs startup offer your current job, or a competing offer? What's your current TC?
      Aug 5
    • New siccboi
      OP
      *35L is current, not competing
      Aug 6
  • Amazon $user
    Yup... International offers work better to negotiate with Google
    Aug 2 0
  • Amazon sQPr52
    Which location? Is the recruiter name is **to ?
    Aug 3 1