Lyft vs Facebook

Tesla LEETCODER
Sep 13, 2018 45 Comments

I have an offer from lyft level-5 & Apple.

Lyft 185/550/30
Apple 175/220/40

I am waiting on number from FB. I am debating between lyft and Facebook. I have 5 yoe in backend infra. I have heard bad things about wlb but coming from Tesla it shouldn’t be a huge problem. I am also not sure what to expect from FB in terms of comp. Recruiter mentioned that they can get close to lyft.

People I spoke with at Lyft were one of the most nicest and smartest I have seen. But at Facebook I have the option to pick oculus or go to general bootcamp. What are your thoughts? What kind of comp I should ask from FB?

Ps I haven’t negotiated with lyft yet.

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  • Tesla LEETCODER
    OP
    Ok a bit about my prep. I did most of the mediums on leetcode and around 40 hards. I will create a separate post over the weekend about my journey. But yea for Facebook there were a few questions from tagged section and some I haven’t seen on leetcode.

    For design grokking and data intensive application was useful. Also read some papers/blogs on architectures.
    Sep 13, 2018 2
    • Intel jinathan
      Thanks! In your post could you give more details about how you prepared for system design?
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      Check out highscalability.com and system design primer. Think about how you would design Instagram, whatsapp, Ride sharing app, distributed cache. Lot of distributed system concepts are used in those designs.
      Sep 13, 2018
  • Facebook 1+1=10
    E4 max: 160 base 400 rsu; median likely 145 base 250-300 rsu. Sign-on can easily go 100k with competitive offers.

    E5 could hit 200 base and ~1M rsu (for rockstar hiring). Highest E5 TC internally posted was 500k.
    Sep 14, 2018 9
    • Facebook 1+1=10
      Who cares what you believe or not! I personally don’t know anyone over 600k rsu too.

      Ask your friend in Facebook to check some post in the Workplace Compensation group. The post was posted about 2-3 months back, where one claims top E5 offer of 500k. E5 base and bonus likely not cross 250k, which converts to 250k rsu / year.
      Sep 14, 2018
    • Lyft Lyftsoft
      1+1, they might use signing bonus of 100k as part of total comp.
      Sep 15, 2018
    • Facebook 1+1=10
      Still 900k rsu, which I personally not aware of - but apparently these days top hire get a ton!
      Sep 15, 2018
    • Facebook 1+1=10
      You may not have clear idea how much topmost performers are paid at FB. Google’s max perf multiplier is 1.8, whereas at FB it’s 3.

      A coworker pointed some E6 in his team, who had GE + RE in two consecutive halves as E5, so got his bonus + refresher multiplied by (2+3)/2 = 2.5. Assuming his base was 190k, roughly he made (120k refresher + 190k * .15 bonus) * 2.5 = 371k as additional payment for that year. Adding base for that year it’s 560k+. He was promoted to E6 due to superb performance.

      Another E6 in FB channel posted sustained TC of $600k, and he declined Google L5 offer as it was too low (450). He got to E6 from E3 in 5 years. But, as you know average E6 is around 450k only.
      Sep 15, 2018
    • Facebook 1+1=10
      Two are independents. Refresher is formulaic, depends on level and prior two halves rating. E5 meets all refresher 120k, E6 200k.
      Sep 16, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng xmazon
    What level for fb?
    Sep 13, 2018 6
    • Lyft Lyftsoft
      Is lyft e4 offer?
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      Yes e4
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Lyft Lyftsoft
      Wow, that’s like top offer. No way fb will match this on e4.
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Facebook xxkw86
      @LEETCODER, I'm confused. According to the title, Lyft 185/550/30 is for L5, but you mentioned here it is L4.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      Level 5 is the self driving division. Not talking about my level. My level is l4
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Google Clck58
    I can’t say I’m optimistic on the future of Lyft or Level 5, but Luc Vincent is one of the nicest and smartest people I’ve met in the valley. You could hope that trickles down.
    Sep 13, 2018 1
    • Lyft Lyftsoft
      I have the same impression about Luc, great guy!
      Sep 13, 2018
  • New szsss
    Glance over some of the numbers on http://levels.fyi for eval
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • New / Eng
    aYLx06

    New Eng

    PRE
    Google
    aYLx06more
    Grats!! How much Leetcode have you done? FB interview mostly Leetcode?
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Tesla LEETCODER
    OP
    Signed lyft. Tough call but the team at lyft was amazing. Wlb at fb was concerning. #yolo
    Sep 18, 2018 4
    • Amazon / Eng xmazon
      Congrats. How much was fb's offer btw?
      Sep 18, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      160/300/40
      Sep 18, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      Lyft gave me 190 base. So that’s a significant difference.
      Sep 18, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng Europe ✈️
      Did Lyft increase RSU after negotiation?
      Oct 1, 2018
  • Cruise Automation Llllllkll
    Check Cruise out, saying just coz you are from Tesla...
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Walmart.com / Eng
    6666666

    Walmart.com Eng

    BIO
    A coder dreams of working in FB Google everyday
    6666666more
    Congrats OP
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Lyft
    Sep 13, 2018 3
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      Why not FB?
      Sep 13, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng WaldoWasHe
      I always see this person supporting lyft on all threads related to lyft. Do you now work for lyft?
      Sep 20, 2018
    • Should be easy to figure out. Just run some GraphQL queries
      Sep 21, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Carmine
    FB will not match lyft as its pre ipo and speculative. Expect 150-160/300/10%bonus and somewhere around 30-50k sign on. Real money vs paper feel good comp
    Sep 15, 2018 0
  • Lyft t4rx75c
    Go to Lyft. We have people from Oculus, they are working on amazing things now
    Sep 15, 2018 3
    • Facebook / Eng Carmine
      Lyft is overvalued and culture is shit I heard from friends who signed up
      Sep 15, 2018
    • Tesla LEETCODER
      OP
      I thought compared to fb wlb lyft might be better?
      Sep 15, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng Carmine
      Meh. Wlb here is what you make it. Many people are overly ambitious and put in extra hours. You can skate by on 40-45 hours if you know what you’re doing and get good ratings.
      Sep 15, 2018
  • VMware lchard09
    I don’t understand what 185/550:30 means in your offer . Is it Base/ RSus = 550k $ vesting over 4 years ?
    Jun 8 1
  • Pinterest nwbR08
    I’d say stock is mediocre for both. Sign Lyft if they offer you 700k in stocks
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Groupon JGEj48
    Lyft pretty much looks like a L4 offer. You can push it more.
    Sep 13, 2018 0
  • Lyft Lyftsoft
    For e5 you could double your stock grant at lyft. Keep negotiating, congrats.
    Sep 13, 2018 0