CompensationJul 17, 2019
Amazonmkjahf

MS L64 offer evaluation

Location: Seattle Yoe: 6 Base: 190k Stock (over 4 years): 400k Signing bonus: 100k L64 (second level of senior swe) Where in the range of FNGU's senior does this fall?

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Bank of America Private Bank hard work Jul 17, 2019

Solid offer, may i know which team?

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

Asure org

Microsoft IamSatya Jul 17, 2019

That’s an awesome offer. Congrats!

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

Awesome in comparison to MS offers? Or in comparison to FNGU?

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

Also what's the mid range of L64 for MS?

Lyft n00b0 Jul 17, 2019

Look like l5 comp for G. In seattle that goes further so very nice.

Apple ufosite Jul 17, 2019

Is this principal engineer?

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

No, senior (they have 2 levels for senior 63 and 64, this is 64)

Google poststuff Jul 17, 2019

This is a very good offer. I negotiated really hard and got an identical offer except that base was $200k... and level was 65 instead of 64. You might ask if you can be brought in at principal-65 instead of senior, since they’re paying you 65-style comp. indeed, at 65 you’ll get refreshers each year of only 36k or so (vesting over 5 years, so 7k a year!) so you’ll be hitting a huge 4 year cliff after the 400k runs out.

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

7k a year?! Really? I thought refreshers were good at MS. Is that all? The recruiter said there would be cash refresher (yearly) too. Not sure if I want to go with L65 if this offer is solid. Less responsibility and almost same money as 65, so why not? :)

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

Also how does it look like in comparison with Google's E5?

eBay merx Jul 17, 2019

L64 at 6 YOE? You must have nailed the interviews. Congratulations OP 🎉

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

Yea, but I'm also a fast learner :)

Facebook wzVB27 Jul 17, 2019

Ms bonus and refresh is equivalent to non-exist. Better to factor that part in. Recruiter will bullshit on your bonus and refresh.

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

You mean at FB or MS?

Facebook wzVB27 Jul 17, 2019

MS for sure. FB is the other way.

Microchip Bismark Jul 17, 2019

6 yoe and L65? Wtf i was interviewed recently and with ~4 yoe they said i ll be hired at L60. Plus haven’t extended the offer yet!!!

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

No, not 65. My offer is 64. It all depends on how the interview goes.

Microsoft !MSFT Jul 17, 2019

@Microchip - Also your past experience matters. If OP is coming from AWS to azure, they can bring in a lot more value.

VMware ItsAlrite Jul 17, 2019

What's your level at Amazon? I think you have a solid offer, but you can neg even more showing your current level. Be aware that you won't get much stock as refresher after you join. So neg hard. Do update us how it goes.

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

L6 at Amazon. Good to know about the refreshers. Thanks.

Lyft blah212 Jul 17, 2019

What level at Amazon

Amazon mkjahf OP Jul 17, 2019

L6