MSFT v LinkedIn v AirBnB Finance/BizOps/Program?

GE UstI03
May 11, 2018 22 Comments

Interviewing for: Sr Mgr Fin (MS), Sr Mgr BizOps (LI), Prog Mgr (ABB). 6+ yrs exp. MBA from top school.

Some context: Passed Super Day/had multiple calls with hiring mgrs at MS, and strongly considering a strategy role in the finance org based in Seattle. I currently live in the Bay. I'm finishing interviews at LI (Sunnyvale) and ABB (SF) but I feel good about my chances.

Concerns/Questions: MS seems like a great place based on interviews but I've read so much shit about culture/politics/low pay on Blind and am REALLY nervous about relo'ing. I've relo'ed before but is it worth it at MS? If I leave the Bay am I demolishing chances of coming back? Any improvements in culture/etc. after the announcement to break up WDG/re-org? Also, what is typical TC for Sr Mgrs in fin at MS? The soft offer during first call w/recruiter seemed wayy low.

Can folks share opinions on difficulty of passing LI interviews, and opinion on working at ABB?

Any help/thoughts/insights are appreciated.

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Edited for clarity and less robot-ness. Was trying to get to the point.

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TOP 22 Comments
  • LinkedIn tVfy86
    LinkedIn bizops is the way to go. Bizops has a great reputation at LinkedIn and you’ll be working directly with product and data science on strategy.
    May 12, 2018 3
    • GE UstI03
      OP
      Thanks for the insight! Any idea around the difficulty of getting through the interviews? i.e., lots of technical or behavioral questions? I'm hopeful for this role, so while I'm doing my best to prep any additional thoughts are helpful.
      May 12, 2018
    • LinkedIn tVfy86
      Unfortunately I can’t say with certainty (I’m not in bizops). I would guess case questions and behavioral.
      May 12, 2018
    • Twitter / Product Pdgr
      No technical afaik. Prepare for case interviews and behavioral
      May 15, 2018
  • Airbnb nTW61x
    LinkedIn is a fantastic company to work for. If you get an offer, use the others as leverage to get you LI offer higher. I cannot recommend the other two.
    May 12, 2018 0
  • OP, Finance Manager is not a strategy role. If you want strategy role, apply for a strategy role in MS.

    Corporate Finance track/skill/perception is very, very different from Strategy/BizOps.
    May 11, 2018 5
    • GE UstI03
      OP
      So the role/team I'm speaking to is for a strategy and planning type role, within the finance org. I have seen strategy roles in both places - for instance, my current role is also strategy within finance. Not all finance is pure number crunching/accounting.
      May 12, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng AmI3vil
      Can you both elaborate on what the strategy role is? I’m just curious. If it’s something standard, a link would suffice.
      May 12, 2018
    • GE UstI03
      OP
      Here's an example of a role at SQ that falls under this umbrella from my perspective.

      https://g.co/kgs/NJ14Wn
      May 12, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng AmI3vil
      Oh, that’s an interesting job. My impression hearing from people is that this is what the finance org does at Microsoft. Before Amy Hood as CFO, I don’t think it used to be that way. I’m an engineer and I’m a fan of hers.
      May 12, 2018
    • Microsoft / Other Scrilla
      OP is correct, strategic roles most typically reside in the Finance org at MSFT.
      May 12, 2018
  • Amazon Nineball
    It’s like this one speaks in code!
    May 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Apky13
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    May 11, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Other Scrilla
    My experience with MS in finance has been good.

    Low pay is a common theme but I have a decent deal and know others that make good pay as well, as far as finance goes not necessarily as far as FAANG goes.

    Assuming you’re brought in at Lvl 62 Senior FM TC I wouldn’t take anything less than $140k base, targeted annual bonus will be $14k/10% (you could maybe get up to 15%) and maybe $70k (??) in stock over 3 years (so approx $180k TC). 401k match is good and the WLB is solid if you’re not on a shit team and can manage yourself a bit.

    Re-org is a huge win from a Finance standpoint IMO because the former EVP Terry was an absolute disaster to deal with from a business/FP&A/strategy side. Rajesh is already making great strides with finance to change the way the business runs and get them better seats at the table when Terry would literally avoid us.

    Happy to DM about it if you want, I’m FM about to be SFM presently.
    May 12, 2018 4
    • GE UstI03
      OP
      Hey Scrilla, really appreciate the insight and would love to discuss further over DM about your plans to transition to SFM and your expectations.
      May 12, 2018
    • Microsoft EQmX55
      Wow if that's really what a SFM should expect I'm severely underpaid.
      May 13, 2018
    • Microsoft / Other Scrilla
      I more meant negotiate for that coming in considering OP’s other options. I’ll be closer to $124k base as 62 SFM this summer so I think $140k is probably high end but do-able IMO
      May 13, 2018
    • LinkedIn MzqC50
      I’m surprised that at that comp for a Senior Finance Manager at Microsoft. LI BizOps Manager is around $220-260k total comp per year.
      May 13, 2018
  • Microsoft rocket
    Depends on the team MS is like many small division and each team and division has its own way of dealing with there product ... if you like the team and the product go for it..
    May 11, 2018 1
    • GE UstI03
      OP
      Thanks for insight @Rocket - do you think the culture is starting to improve overall after the re-orgs?
      May 12, 2018
  • LinkedIn EzQU48
    LinkedIn BizOps here. Comp will be higher than MS but I’m a lower level so can’t give specifics (wouldn’t disagree w MzqC50). For interview, I wouldn’t expect anything “technical” in a software sense, but you should definitely know SaaS from a business perspective. Case interviews are much less formal than traditional consulting and may even be sprinkled into a broader interview. I had several mini-cases like “should LinkedIn enter the X market?” or “how large is the Y market in Z region?” Definitely have good stories ready for behavioral questions, and I’d definitely emphasize your ability to lead as a SM — we like great people managers :)
    May 19, 2018 0
  • Microsoft EQmX55
    Op, would you be able to share any more about which org specifically for MS? I'm also finance @MS and know a lot of the strategy groups. Feel free to pm if you prefer
    May 13, 2018 0