Manager vs Senior manager risk at Amex

Citibank / Data XQUJ58
Sep 20 9 Comments

I am trying to understand how are responsibilites different for a manager vs a senior manager in risk team at Amex. Is it true that Amex always offers a position lower than intended and then the candidate has to negotiate well to get what he/she deserves?

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  • American Express vista133
    Ivy league MBA should not even be at amex, unless at VP level or he is waisted his investment
    Sep 21 3
    • American Express vrBp02
      We have tons of them as well as 2nd tier B schools
      Sep 21
    • American Express vista133
      2nd tier is fine but M7 I have hard time to get it...
      Sep 21
    • American Express D.BCooper
      Theyre mostly Ivy washouts that couldn't land a big job. Some director I work with had 50k prep schools and Ivy league on his/her resume.

      Phoenix is really bad. You have people managing data science projects with humanities degrees. Or IT with no engineering degrees. They send them to training for
      .. who knows what.

      My current boss doesn't even know what a discrete vs continuous variable is. You run into this a lot at Amex. Underqualified but have time with the company. They'd never get a similar position elsewhere in another company so they hold on for dear life.
      Sep 21
  • American Express vrBp02
    Depends; in product and marketing, there’s no discernible difference between manager and senior manager. They will lowball you and hire you beneath the level you should be intentionally. I know someone with an Ivy League MBA and they still hired him as an analyst. I was shocked but it happens.
    Sep 21 0
  • American Express D.BCooper
    Yeah you need to come in strong. Amex promotes slowly. I got sr title and had a lot of experience with tech stacks they needed so was able to get b40 (director) pay, but your mileage may vary.

    Sr manager does not actually directly manage a team. I have engineering resources that I can use but do not write performance plans.
    Sep 21 0
  • American Express / Product
    celk8

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    celk8more
    I don't know about the Risk team specifically, but generally yes, Amex will low-ball. Push for the Sr title. In my team, the responsibilities are identical but the comp & career next-steps are not.
    Sep 21 0
  • American Express vista133
    Yes correct about managing resources. What's the salary range for a director role?
    Sep 21 0
  • American Express vista133
    Not always true, depends on what you bring to the table, yoe, particular expertise... sr manager is a bit stronger on the leadership side, leading a team, working with directors... manager is executing tasks..
    Sep 21 0

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