In Window's org and MCIO?...Most impacted - Service engineers, Program managers. Partners and Principals. Now Cloud group has lots of trash added with recent reorg. from OSG. OSG devs are of very low standard compared to Azure devs. They won't stand a chance. Heard from a Partner group manager that lists are being prepared. Watch out.
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- Yandex kGos57Should new grad hires starting this summer at Windows be worried too?
- Microsoft lzmz70Do people with recent promotions and good connect feedback also need to be worried?
- In the past, I’ve seen typical layoffs where whole teams or orgs were cut. Some employees were slated for specific roles, others allowed to look for open roles to switch to, and yet others were just walked out. The second category is the most numerous, so most laid off were quickly reabsorbed into the company.Apr 14, 2018 4
- Microsoft var_Please stop responding to a random person spreading shit just because it’s an anonymous forum. Such fake news is spread by people who are themselves insecure about their job because deep down they know they deserve to be kicked off and hence are afraid. Stop reacting to this shit. Please stop giving oxygen to this fire of unnecessary rumors without any evidence whatsoever . Let’s concentrate on doing our best work day in and out.
- Also your post suggests PMs, service engineers, devs, principal, partner. Essentially saying everyone at L68 or below at wdg need to be worried 😯
- Please understand that layoffs are not necessarily based on performance. I am aware of people who got 2 promotions in 10 months did get lay off last year. It's about eliminating the positions. Irrespective of your performance . If management sees that specific group or team is redundant or shrinking budget, hard decisions are being made.
- Google xRON53I know a person who got laid off from Microsoft , and got absorbed in another team , 2 weeks later his promotion came in for him ( from his previous role ? In Microsoft , they don’t lay off based on performance. Because if they do that is firing and not laying off , and you cannot fire someone without previous warning about them having low performance ..
- Microsoft NewWdgI have been refraining from commenting, but this has put caused enough people to lose their sleep. I am from WDG at level 68+ and I want assure everyone that this is FAKE. The OP is probably a troll, someone insecure or someone who is in PIP and could be fired soon. Please don't trust everything you read on Blind without facts, which includes my post.
- Microsoft mrcloudWhy the fuck OP posted this in all forums??? Posting it in just msft is still okay to blaber... If u don't like to work in msft.. Get your ass out but don't ruin whatever brand we have left
- We are definitely realigning strategy. Id expect refocusing/reorg to align more with cloud, iot, and mobile projects. Probably less emphasis on windows only ecosystem. The company needs to make the shift.
Id also expect tighter integration of linked in.
This probably wont mean IC rifs, maybe partner/cvp house cleaning. Id expect Terrys cronies to be worried atm.
Devs need not be worried, we are ramping up new work and need more devs not rifs.
Maybe wdg quality org will be dissolved. Useless.
- Microsoft ((()/$/$There is a lot of duplicates effort in our telemetry/data platforms. Everyone knows it and they’ve all been trying to one up each other so that their pet platform gets the gold star.
We’ve got some good stuff in this space as a company, I just hope that they consolidate it.
- Commenting on couple topics in this thread:
Azure org has 5:1 dev:pm ratio. Go look in headtrax or who and you’ll see for azure compute, storage, networking, IOT that dev teams are consistently 5x the size of pm teams. I would expect same ratio applied to other feature teams that just reorg’d in.
If there are layoffs, I would think Sep is reasonable timeframe as others mentioned. That’s been trend under Satya. Also Azure team basically doubled with MCIO and WDG teams so next couple months will be used to understand pieces in new org, create all-up strategy and build FY19 plan - including financial targets and headcount budget.
Then org structure will be decided that best supports strategy and plan. At that point there will be some winners and losers at partner and above. Reorg (assuming one happens) would likely take place by July (to begin fiscal year).
Certainly there will be overlapping areas by merging Azure original team, MCIO pieces and WDG pieces. Could result in layoffs, but as others have said impacted employees often get opportunity to look for another role internally. More so, Azure is in land grab for the cloud and I know areas and critical projects that are starved for good engineers - so I would expect reorg and any layoffs to be more about aligning on single resource strategy (dev/pm ratio; service quality/livesite model) and reassigning resources to high need areas than about reducing absolute costs.
As others commented and I stated above, good developers should be fine. However PMs from WDG and those in less technical roles that were duplicated across these orgs (customer programs, partner/ecosystem) could be at higher risk of layoff without soft landing in Azure.
Or I could just be completely wrong.
- Looking at Azure org chart, Zander has invested more than most execs on horizontal functions - CAT, Global/ecosystem, livesite, CXP, CSI. So he clearly values those. Fortin’s org seems like a horizontal mostly to me.
Jason also seems very pragmatic and not dogmatic - so I don’t expect him to make knee jerk or blanket decisions, such as “This is how we do it in Azure, we’ve got it all figured out, you guys in WDG are clueless.’ He’s one of the most rational and balanced execs I’ve seen.
He did come up through dev track at Microsoft and Azure has 5:1 dev/pm ratio so my assumption is that he’d look to reduce duplication in the new org and shift those resources to advancing the platform.
I’ve spent time in Windows and Azure and love them both. They have long connected history. Makes a lot of sense to merge as one group. Think of this as opportunity and not risk.Apr 17, 2018 2
- Henry Sanders is out and Erin Chapple being promoted to CVP
- I am told if you join the Edge team, you will be safe!
- The program manager RIF has been in work for a while not to mention the WDG holding promotions for.L66+ due to being over budget.
- Microsoft eQvl05Looking to hear from FakeSatya on this topic. While such news start as rumor, mostly they turn out to be a reality. Matter of time?
Microsoft has become an awful place to work, and might get remembered in history for the company that executed the most layoffs, just for Satya to please investors from time to time. Ridiculous leadership to keep the morale high in the company!
Sincere Advise to LTs, get done with the RIF and let employees feel ownership in the company too.