Hi all, I am a Microsoft level 61 csa and saw a job of level 64 SE manager role that is a great fit for me. I heard Ms policy is that internal transfers is done without a change in level. How will this affect my chances? is it true there is a policy like this. Is it possible that I get bumped to level 64 or closer?
Dude. 🤣. CSA to 64 SE. sure. I’m a l61 pm I’d like to be a l64 pm lead. Why not? I’d make 100k more. It’s a nice life.
Are you being sacastic here?
Well if you had to ask 😂
There is zero chance that will happen
Sorry OP, I'm not going to be harsh like the others here. Typically internal movements happen without a change in level. The hiring managers usually have a latitude to adjust the level in the case of a lateral movement. But IC to M levels are tricky.
Just so more folks don’t shit on OP like me, OP has 12yoe and 8yoe in people mgmt. Microsoft downleveled his ass. So I think he can find some latitude in getting the role- also it’s in ADC and for a new group. All the best OP. Go for it.
I like you and people who are like you. Thanks for showing some empathy.
Ok. Let me ask you how would that work? You approach the hiring manager, how do you present your case? Also, how do you think you would be a great fit in that role?
Thanks all. This has been very useful
Is there any chance you’d like to boomerang back to MSFT? That will for sure give you that level band, just look for a managerial position externally - that is, if you’re dead set on moving from an IC to M role.
FWIW I applied to a L65 role as a L61 and got the job. As stated above, I stayed L61, but the fact that the role was “funded” up to L65 suggested to me that there was plenty of scope and budget to grow quickly. So there’s that...
Was it a manager role, L65? Principal?
That’s awesome! How did you go about it? Setup an informational? How did they let you manage the larger impact project?
+/-1 level. Who do you think you are that you could jump 3? Basically skipping an entire band?
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lol no
I don't understand. No, you cannot get the job even though you are a great fit. Or no you can't get a bump? Or no to all?
No to all. If you’re 61 you can’t justify a 64 level impact. And no way they’re leveling you up by 3 levels moving from csa to SE. the other way is easier and it still would never happen. It’s ok to be ambitious but this question shows immaturity, lack of awareness and avarice.