Microsoft L61 offer Redmond

Cadence CubicleDog
Aug 13 29 Comments

YOE: 6 + Masters
With my YOE, I was hoping for L62 or even an L63. But it is what it is.

After some negotiation, these are the numbers I have.

Microsoft Cloud + AI Core Platform, Redmond
L61 (Offer letter doesn't mention this, though. It's what the recruiter says.)
Base: 135K
Signing bonus: 40K
RSU: 140K (Offer letter doesn't mention a vesting period of 4 years. Any reason for worry? Offer letter says this: On-hire Stock Awards are approved on a monthly basis, with vesting commencement on the approval date.)
Annual bonus: 0 - 20%
Relocation: Full relocation assistance and $2500 relocation allowance. (Moving from Bay Area)
Other benefits are standard: 50% 401(K) match, eligibility for SSA, ESPP etc.

The initial offer was 127K base, 25K bonus and 75K RSU. I asked for 135/40/180 and got 135/40/140. I'm content with this and don't want to stretch my luck further.

I'll be joining the Cloud + AI Core platform. Is this the same as Azure Cosine? On the one hand, I've seen people ogling over MS Cloud + AI on Blind here. On the other, some folks have written disappointing comments over Cosine and how it's all outdated legacy work. My future MS manager has terms like 'M365 workplace' and 'management infrastructure' on his LinkedIn profile. Any hints on what that work will be like?

For those interested in my post on the interview: https://www.teamblind.com/article/Microsoft-Google-and-Facebook-Interviews-EhJzvziv?cid

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TOP 29 Comments
  • Microsoft Soporific
    Pretty good for L61 industry hire actually.
    Aug 13 0
  • Microsoft saw1saw
    Best L61 industry offer I’ve seen. Industry offers usually suck and RSU usually top at 85k
    Great job OP
    Aug 13 6
    • Microsoft saw1saw
      Lol, typo. Your base looks like 61. But your stock is impressive.
      Aug 13
    • Microsoft saw1saw
      And your team is pretty hard core. Congratulations is all I say
      Aug 13
    • New / Eng tempu
      Good RSU
      Aug 14
    • Amazon gcatr
      Is this an SDE or Program Manager offer? It’s a solid offer, great job OP
      Aug 14
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      This is an SDE. Thanks, gcatr!
      Aug 15
  • Microsoft l33tMS
    Yeah that’s a good TC. What product, do you know? COSINE is a very fickle animal...
    Aug 13 5
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      Before getting my offer letter, I had a chat with the partner development manager and expressed interest in working on containers and orchestration. I was told that they could put me on that.

      Now my offer letter mentions the name of the manager that I'll be reporting to. Looking that person up on LinkedIn, the description has terms like 'M365 workplace' and 'management infrastructure'.

      So I'm not really sure what I'm getting into.
      Aug 13
    • Microsoft l33tMS
      Do you want to PM me the name? I can do some internal snooping..
      Aug 13
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      Really appreciate it I33tMS, but that'll blow away my anonymity - at least for you - when I eventually join the team. You'll be able to say - Oh, that newest guy in that team is the OP of this thread :)
      Aug 13
    • Microsoft l33tMS
      Ah, fair point. I’m sure you’ll be fine :) It’s not the sexiest product but it touches a bunch of customers, at least to my knowledge.
      Aug 13
    • Microsoft saw1saw
      CubicleDog, if you need first hand information, you don’t care about your blind username. You can change bind username once per day. Yes, l33tMS recognize you as CubicleDog, but CubicleDog disappears ever since.
      Aug 13
  • Citrix Systems / Eng ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ
    Yoe ?
    Aug 13 2
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      6 YOE. Just updated that at the top of my post.
      Aug 13
    • Qualtrics JH73057
      L61 is kinda junior for that but not unheard of. It’s what they hire MBAs at, undergrads are 59. Senior individual starts at 63
      Aug 13
  • Snapchat snxb
    damn this relocation allowance

    2500k

    probably you are relocating from the moon, right?
    Aug 13 1
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      Oh damn! 🤣🤣 Thanks Snap! Corrected.
      Aug 13
  • Cisco / R&D gtb_fool
    Need help understanding, L61/62 os that SDE 2 or SDE3?
    Aug 13 1
    • Microsoft fPvi84
      L61 and L62 are SDE II. L63 is senior.
      Aug 13
  • Google monrow
    It's basically a 62 offer imho
    Aug 13 1
    • eBay / Eng dwenig
      ^ This
      It's a 62 offer with low base and high stocks
      Aug 13
  • Microsoft msftgone
    Wow! Monthly vesting ? That seems new for Msft
    Aug 13 1
    • Amazon BezosBeech
      My understanding of their wording is that the initial stock grants happen once a month rather than on first day.
      Aug 13
  • Microsoft cgroup
    Amazing offer especially stock part. Never heard of anyone this high. Is it Redmond or Bay?
    Aug 14 2
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      OP
      The position is in Redmond. The only thing I don't have closure on is that the offer letter doesn't mention if the vesting period is 4 years or longer.
      Aug 14
    • Microsoft cgroup
      Oh I see. Check with recruiter. Did you have competing offers? What was your current Tc?
      Aug 14
  • Microsoft fPvi84
    Damn if that was my offer two years ago I would be so happy.
    Aug 13 0