Microsoft LV60 situation and TC

Deloitte Fcum67
Apr 10 21 Comments

In the industry for almost a year, but I code every single day and my skill set is even better than Specialist at my company (based on them coming to me and asking me questions about the technology and also being able to get things done faster and better than them). Was given the opportunity to manage a team of 10 to build a project from scratch and product is starting to sell.

(Apologize if it seems like I’m bragging, just wanted to layout a clear picture on what I’m trying to achieve and wanted to get opinion on it)

Oh, and I do Product, UX, UI, Front end and back end development on the side. (I don’t even know if this is relevant anymore, just wanted to put it out to see if you guys think that these might be a good sell for getting a higher level with not as much experience)

Am currently offered level 60 at Microsoft with potential
Base: 110k
Equity: 9k stock max and 20% cash max
Sign on: not discussed yet
Relocation: 13k

Will be talking to manager next week to learn about the position. I want to negotiate to get lv61 position ( been told that it might be impossible, but I believe in hope). And use that position level to get a better TC.

Other than that, am still interviewing with Google and Bloomberg. So am asking for at least a months extension, but recruiter kept mentioning it will be hard.

Opinions?

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TOP 21 Comments
  • In Redmond?
    9k is one year or four?
    My new grad offer from Amazon 4 years ago was slightly higher I think this is a pretty weak new grad offer.
    Apr 10 6
    • Microsoft / Eng FlyTurtle
      If you are not sure, it's probably over 4 years. Been there done that
      Apr 10
    • Microsoft / Eng FlyTurtle
      Also I got 120k base for 60 about 1 year ago
      Apr 10
    • Deloitte Fcum67
      OP
      He said that 100% is 114k. So in a way he’s bending the truth?
      Apr 10
    • Microsoft / Eng FlyTurtle
      Did he tell you it's level 60? If it's 59, that number might be true
      Apr 10
    • Deloitte Fcum67
      OP
      He said 60
      Apr 11
  • Microsoft Vbsm66
    My guess is that you either forgot to include your on-hire RSU grant or you were not offered one
    Apr 10 2
    • Deloitte Fcum67
      OP
      On hire RSU? He didn’t mention that
      Apr 10
    • Microsoft Vbsm66
      Check with the recruiter
      Apr 10
  • Microsoft Vbsm66
    9K sounds like the standard stock refresher, it's incredibly low
    Apr 10 0
  • Microsoft Vbsm66
    60 is generally for fresh Masters graduates, which probably makes sense for you given your less than 1 year experience
    Apr 10 7
    • Microsoft / Field Ops CAUR25
      My base was close to $120K when I joined as a masters Grad, 18 months back
      Apr 10
    • Deloitte Fcum67
      OP
      Do you mean including sign on bonus?
      Apr 10
    • Microsoft / Field Ops CAUR25
      Nope, excluding sign on and stocks.
      Apr 10
    • Deloitte Fcum67
      OP
      Do you guys know the difference of the job scope when it comes to the levels?
      Apr 10
    • 60 = Junior engineer, working on components.
      62 = seasoned engineer, can lead small projects.
      64 = Senior engineer, team lead.
      Apr 11
  • Thomson Reuters / Eng
    penguin0_0

    Thomson Reuters Eng

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    Amazon
    penguin0_0more
    I have two year of internship + 1.5 years of industry experience all from tech giant, and was offered level 60, honestly speaking you can't learn much with 1 year of industry experience hence level 60 no matter how good you think u are, especially with all the multitasking, u can not master all of them. Plus every engineer write code everyday so it doesn't really mean u are better than others engineer, and getting things done faster and better doesn't mean much, unless ur company has very high standard code reviewing practice, else ur code is just garbage, speaking from true experience. U might be good at ur company but garabage at another.
    May 26 0
  • Qualtrics
    acewolf

    Qualtrics

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    acewolfmore
    1 year of experience is not especially meaningful to a company from a comp perspective. Undergrads are hired at
    L59 so they are basically just giving you as if you got promoted in year one.

    Your base seems low if you’re in eng, but your experience isn’t comparable to L61 unless it’s a big outlier for the hiring manager.
    Apr 10 0